(urth) Typhon & Whorl

[thalassocrat at nym.hush.com]

A little while ago Roy agreed with me on something:

>>Abaia etc are in the oceans of Urth during Typhon's reign 
[according to SS/LS], and
>>given that his family knows about them, presumably he does too
>>(whereas in NS their presence seems to be a new thing for the
>>"resurrected" Typhon).

>Exactly right.

But actually, this problem crops up even in UOTNS. From his cell, 
Sev tells Herena et al: "Great Erebus, who has established his 
kingdom [in the southern ice] ... will unite his strength with 
Abaia's, whose kingdom is in the warm waters".

If you want to harmonize UOTNS with the rest of NS, then I guess 
you're forced to conclude that Abaia was there but T didn't know 
it, back in the day. The relevant words from Sword Ch XXVI (after 
T's resurrection): "There are powers in the seas now who would 
rule". It doesn't seem like something T would say if he had known 
of those powers before his death, at the time Sev's speech to 
Herena et al. 

I guess it's possible that Abaia etc had just recently arrived 
and/or were successfully concealing themselves from him. By the 
time of Sword, Typhon has been replaced by Autarchs, with much less 
power, and so concealment is unnecessary.

If you want to harmonize all of NS/UOTNS/LS/SS, I suppose you can 
extend this to construct a story in which Abaia etc suborned (some 
of?) Typhon's children (and wife?) without revealing their 
existence to him.