<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Can someone more math-enjoying than me take up the challenge to build a system based on (A => B) & (A & ~B) ? Could some insight come out of the thing?<br><br></div><div><br>No dia 17/10/2014, às 19:29, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <<a href="mailto:danldo@gmail.com">danldo@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">An interesting quote. <div><br></div><div>We may, I think, assume that Wolfe (like me) assumes that the laws of arithmetic as we know them do not apply in infinities; after all, under the right circumstances 1=3 and 3=1.</div><div><br></div><div>But I'm not sure that this settles the idea that there is/is not a place where maths and logic don't apply. At most this suggests that different maths may apply in different circumstances, just as Euclidean geometry and Riemannian geometry both produce useful pictures of reality.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Robert Pirkola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rpirkola@hotmail.com" target="_blank">rpirkola@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Lee said: "<span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;line-height:21.2999992370605px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Plus, if a pawn makes it to the end of the board, they can be brought back as a more powerful</span><pre style="line-height:21.2999992370605px;white-space:normal;font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.2999992370605px">piece. I think Wolfe intends this analogy for Severian (The Conciliator/New Sun) after he returns<br style="line-height:21.2999992370605px"><br style="line-height:21.2999992370605px">from Yesod."</pre><pre style="line-height:21.2999992370605px;white-space:normal;font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></pre><pre style="line-height:21.2999992370605px;white-space:normal;font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">He has made such an analogy at least one other time, in "To the Seventh", which also contains </pre><pre style="line-height:21.2999992370605px;white-space:normal;font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">this interesting passage that has a whiff of recent topics: "Outside its sides that were not sides</pre><pre style="line-height:21.2999992370605px;white-space:normal;font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">the universe was a point of matter vastly heavy, and a vastness beyond the reach of mathematics</pre><pre style="line-height:21.2999992370605px;white-space:normal;font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">in which matter was so rare that it could truthfully said not to exist." (*Strange Travelers*, Tor</pre><pre style="line-height:21.2999992370605px;white-space:normal;font-family:'Segoe UI','Segoe UI Web Regular','Segoe UI Symbol','Helvetica Neue','BBAlpha Sans','S60 Sans',Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">paperback, pg. 132).</pre> </div></div>
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