No lee, I think he was a shadow child, which is very different than an abo. I think Abos and shadow children have completely different life cycles. Thus he is persecuted. Everyone else is an abo, however, and the switch happened as soon as they landed on ste Anne at the same time Sandwalker and eastwind were switched (Trenchard later says his ancestor is the east wind who met the Landers) when all of a "they" can't recognize what open hands mean. (Or is that a universal signal everywhere but in France? nope). Abos go from larva to adult imitative form to immobile carapace (the trees at the brothel disappear during certain seasons - we assume they have been uprooted) and the shadow children are many who become one - a group consciousness formed by a colony of cells (as all living things are, save that this one promulgates through infection). They took over ste croix about 140 years ago and Marsch asks why all the buildings are so ridiculously old - Abos don't build new things, they just imitate things already in place. <br>
<br>On Tuesday, August 26, 2014, Lee <<a href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com">severiansola@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
>Marc Aramini: Marsch had already been to St Anne and been<br>
<br>
>replaced when he met Number Five.<br>
<br>
<br>
You and Gerry are in agreement on that. The rarity of this<br>
<br>
is almost enough by itself to convince me. Moreover, I've<br>
<br>
never been good at fictional timelines.<br>
<br>
<br>
It still seems odd that a visiting anthropologist would not<br>
<br>
stop in to see the resident expert first, rather than diving<br>
<br>
right into field study and finding the expert later. Also, I<br>
<br>
don't see why Victor would seek out the theorist who correctly<br>
<br>
hypothesized that he is a fake. Avoiding her would seem the<br>
<br>
more logical deceptive strategy.<br>
<br>
<br>
>He does not explain how his writing became similar to that of<br>
<br>
>the boy who supposedly died. Nor does the above explain 'Marsch's'<br>
<br>
>ruminations in his cell about his abo mother, and the hard time he<br>
<br>
>had learning to write as a schoolboy<br>
<br>
<br>
It remains conjecture rather than a part of the text that Victor<br>
<br>
has replaced Dr. Marsch. Conjecture which was rejected by some<br>
<br>
readers.<br>
<br>
<br>
Nowhere in the text does it say "Victor replaced Marsch". Only<br>
<br>
when those words appeared in a Wolfe interview did the skeptics<br>
<br>
relent in demanding to be shown where in the text it says that<br>
<br>
Victor replaced Marsch.<br>
<br>
<br>
The point being that if Wolfe makes his point about Victor without<br>
<br>
ever putting it in the text, then surely Wolfe is making other points<br>
<br>
without putting it in the text in this and in his other works. There<br>
<br>
are no rules on how far to take speculation and conjecture except one's<br>
<br>
own feelings and emotions. "This seems right to me" is the best we<br>
<br>
can each do.<br>
<br>
<br>
Currently, you and Marc feel that Marsch was an abo when he first<br>
<br>
met Dr. Veil. Currently that doesn't feel right to me. Currently,<br>
<br>
Marc and I feel that virtually all humans were replaced on St. Croix<br>
<br>
while, currently, that does not feel right to you.<br>
<br>
<br>
Naturally we each go by what feels right to us. We are dealing with<br>
<br>
fictional creations which do not exist except as insubstantial mental<br>
<br>
constructs. 5HoC does not exist other than in the form of our own<br>
<br>
thoughts and feelings.<br>
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