<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>That also had the advantage of not having such an elaborate thing as the Shadow Children come into play just to be inexplicably erased when the story closes. <br><br>No dia 05/08/2014, às 18:25, Marc Aramini <<a href="mailto:marcaramini@gmail.com">marcaramini@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">eastwind has no testicles but survives - the life cycle of the shadow children does not involve sexual reproduction. I also know Eastwind is an abo, but he SYMBOLIZES the shadow children's propagation cycle in the story's conclusion, while Sandwalker symbolizes the aboriginal one.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Marc Aramini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marcaramini@gmail.com" target="_blank">marcaramini@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>my mistake, replaced, supplanted. I KNOW he was bitten by the cat, Gerry. Why even say that? Victor is only a part of the equation because the cat had a kind of affinity for Victor like the Shadow Children do for whoever with their psychic empathy, but it is the bite that brings the fragment of that psychic connection into Marsch and "replaces" him. If there is any of Victor in Marsch, it is through the psychic resonance the cat had with Victor. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I think of Victor and Marsch as two distinct entities, and Victor DIES in a scene you believe to be a fabrication, a fall. But Wolfe wants us to believe Victor takes Marsch's place and assumes his shape, because that is the first false solution to the mystery without touching on the life cycle of the Shadow Children that underlies the point of "A Story". It seems Sandwalker the abo lives, as it seems Victor replaces Marsch, but Marsch is actually but a vector for an infection which can rise up on air currents and float in the wind (Eastwind).<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Gerry Quinn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gerry@bindweed.com" target="_blank">gerry@bindweed.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 05/08/2014 17:59, Marc Aramini wrote:<br>
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they say the white creatures they chew and spit out are their "brides." - seems like an organism to me. As I said, the associations are symbolic rather than literal, so proving it is quite unlikely. Sandwalker and Eastwind ARE switched by a bite. Marsch is switched with a bite, too. But you don't buy it, that's fine.<br>
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That's the plant. It's white and without comfort because the drug is used up. Then they wait until sufficient time has passed for safety, and take more of the plant.<br>
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Why do you say Marsch is switched, rather than replaced? The new Marsch says "I needed to make my voice like his and look older". And the old Marsch was bitten by the cat, not by Victor...<div><div>
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