<div dir="ltr">Given the sentence it is used in, I thought "bluer in cheek" was pretty much saying "heavier beard".</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Antonin Scriabin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kierkegaurdian@gmail.com" target="_blank">kierkegaurdian@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Well, "<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.4px">bluer of cheek" is a variation on the term "blue-blood", of course a reference to nobility ... you could see the surface veins of those who, because of their stature in society, had very pale skin (they didn't have to work outside at physical labor, thus acquiring a tan). <br>
<br></span></div><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.4px">In Solitaire, a black (or red) Jack is placed "on top" of a Queen of the opposite color (and a different suit, necessarily) ... so perhaps the "elector" is the Jack and the "patroness" is the Queen?<br>
<br></span></div><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.4px">"Theocenter" might simply mean "godhead", or a reference to the oneness and simplicity thereof, as the root of all existence, in a Judeo-Christian sense. But don't quote me.<br>
<br></span></div><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.4px">Not sure about the other one, I'll have to page through my copy at home to get the full context.<br>
</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Got this alert from the Goodreads Gene Wolfe group:<br>
<br><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1614149-help-some-details-in-the-shadow?utm_medium=email&utm_source=comment_instant#comment_88705259" target="_blank">https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1614149-help-some-details-in-the-shadow?utm_medium=email&utm_source=comment_instant#comment_88705259</a><div>
<br></div><div>"<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">I am a SF editor & Wolfe fan in China, and we are trying to publish The Book of New Sun in Chinese. I've done a lot of work in reading and translation , yet there are still some sentences I can't understand. Hope I can get some help here. </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">THE HOUSE AZURE </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">While I was undressing I said, “Nevertheless, we all seek to discover what is real. Why is it? Perhaps we are drawn to the theocenter. That’s what the hierophants say,that only that is true.”</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">what does "theocenter" mean? I can't find this word in dictionary nor can I google it. and what does the whole sentence mean?</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">--------------------------------------------</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">THE LAST YEAR </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">I carried them to her, and she said my beard had shot up like them, and I should be bluer of cheek than the run of common men, and the next day begged my pardon for it, saying I was that already. </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">what does "bluer of cheek"and " run of common men" mean here?</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">-----------------------------------------</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">DORCAS </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">“Your pardon, sieur,” he said. “But I can’t come no nearer. Wet she may be, but she gets too dry for me, or you couldn’t walk upon it. </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">Does "she" refer to the boat or Cas' body? what does the sentence mean?</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">------------------------------------------</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">THE PLAY </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">confirm the outcome of a love affair by putting the elector of one suit atop the patroness of another</span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">
<br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:18px;font-family:Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:14.39px">If the word suit refer to the some card game, then what does "elector"and "patroness"mean?" </span><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
<div><br></div>-- <br>Daniel Otto Jack Petersen
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