<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I've been teaching literature for over 15 years, and suddenly I feel very confident in my abilities....</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Urth <jordonflatourth@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> The Urth Mailing List <urth@lists.urth.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 5, 2013 5:26 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years"<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>
I haven't posted to the list in a long while, but reading this made me spit coffee all over the keyboard, in hilarity and horror. "...a long fairy tale inserted inserted into the middle of the novel that goes nowhere and adds absolutely nothing..."<br><br>I pity anyone with him as a professor. I hope they all read this blog post.<br><br>Sent from my iPad<br><br>On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:42 PM, David Stockhoff <<a href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net" ymailto="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Here's another gem:<br>> <br>> "(Let’s set aside the morality of investing our interest in a character who tortures people. Remember, the violence in Wolfe is partially influenced by the overt violence in the early 1980s of Orson Scott Card. *Card’s touch is everywhere in these books.*)"<br>> <br>> On 9/5/2013 6:36 PM, Christopher Simon wrote:<br>>> "Bujold tips her hand in the eloquence
of her language (normally a good thing) and the attention to detail that only women would find attractive: balls, courts, military dress, palace intrigues, gossiping, and whispering in the corridors."<br>>> <br>>> Kinda sexist too, isn't he?<br>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>> From: Jeff Wilson <mailto:<a href="mailto:jwilson@clueland.com" ymailto="mailto:jwilson@clueland.com">jwilson@clueland.com</a>><br>>> Sent: 9/5/2013 5:52 PM<br>>> To: <a href="mailto:urth@urth.net" ymailto="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:urth@urth.net" ymailto="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</a>><br>>> Subject: (urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years"<br>>> <br>>> Paul Cook has a ranty go at books he doesn't consider SF, including BOTNS.<br>>> He considers the presence of medieval and Arthurian tropes
with poor sfnal<br>>> world building like the Urth failing to wobble from the lack of a moon<br>>> (!!) to be false advertising.<br>>> <br>>> http://amazingstoriesmag.com/2013/09/science-fiction-science-fiction/<br>>> <br>>> Alas, the site editor has blocked comments after a torrent of<br>>> coutner-ranting, but has offered to publish a suitably impersonal<br>>> counter-column submission.<br>>> <br>>> Would anyone like to join me in compiling some quotes and citations that<br>>> poke holes in some of his underinformed opinions?<br>>> <br>>> in particular:<br>>> <br>>> - there's no moon, so the earth should wobble<br>>> - vulcanism has ceased<br>>> - mountain raising (tectonics) has ceased<br>>> - extreme antiquity (millions or billions of years)<br>>> - subduction zones have stopped removing carbon from the atmosphere<br>>> - events in
vast antiquity not referred to, antiquity "not used"<br>>> - "Book Two has a long fairy tale inserted in the middle of the novel<br>>> that goes absolutely nowhere and adds nothing to the novel"<br>>> <br>>> It would be best to stick to the original 4 volumes and the pre-Urth<br>>> short-stories if we can.<br>>> <br>>> -- <br>>> Jeff Wilson - < <a href="mailto:jwilson@clueland.com" ymailto="mailto:jwilson@clueland.com">jwilson@clueland.com</a> ><br>>> A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab<br>>> < http://www.tamut.edu/cil ><br>>> <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Urth Mailing List<br>>> To post, write <a href="mailto:urth@urth.net" ymailto="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</a><br>>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net<br>>> <br>>> <br>>>
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