Ah, helpful. That's part of what I was wondering too - whether the story itself suggested or allowed for the 'commingled atmosphere theory'. Sounds like we need to discard it (imaginatively beautiful though it is).<div>
<br></div><div>-DOJP<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM, David Stockhoff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net" target="_blank">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, the cited Jahlee reference has them burning up on reentry if they are dead. So the commingled atmosphere theory is not part of the story.<br>
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On 11/28/2012 5:48 PM, Daniel Petersen wrote:<br>
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Yep, that's what I was worried about, but I have no scientific training so I didn't know if there were some exquisitely rare scenarios where this might be just barely plausible. (It's such a breathtakingly awe-inspiring thought: worthy of a fantasy at least - if no one has written such a thing, someone needs to!) But come to think of it: doesn't the passage say rather explicitly that they fly through /space/? (Does anyone have a page number reference for this?)<br>
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-DOJP<br>
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Not really -- they both seem to have about one G of surface<br>
gravity, so getting close enough that their atmospheres<br>
meaningfully touched would involve massive tidal effects up to and<br>
including immense tsunami and disastrous earthquakes.<br>
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That's a wonderful thought, Antonin! Is this feasible? (Both<br>
generally and in the text?)<br>
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-DOJP<br>
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Antonin Scriabin<br>
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Do we have any idea just how close Blue and Green get<br>
during conjunction? I seem to remember that from Blue,<br>
Green is more of a spec than a moon, but perhaps they are<br>
close enough, or have unusually expansive atmospheres,<br>
such that during conjunction their atmospheres merge and<br>
allow the Inhumi to fly from one to another. If they are<br>
this close though, they would most definitely fall under<br>
the sway of one another's gravitational field, which<br>
doesn't seem to be the case.<br>
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>David Stockhoff: We're not talking about hard SF here.<br>
<br>
Just for the sake of discussion, I'll disagree.<br>
Perhaps Wolfe isn't diamond-hard<br>
but I'd give him ruby- or sapphire- on the MOhs scale.<br>
I think he makes a<br>
sincere attempt in most of his work, as the quote<br>
below illustrates.<br>
<br>
Where fantasy writers are content to give us shape<br>
changers without explanation,<br>
Wolfe provides us with a sponge cellular analogy for<br>
Tzadkiel and flexible bones<br>
and muscles, make-up and hypnotic abilities for Inhumi.<br>
<br>
If the Inhumi really fly through space I'd want more<br>
than the skimpy evidence we<br>
are provided (and less evidence for their lying nature).<br>
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>Nick Gevers: Speaking as an engineer, how might the<br>
godling be constructed so as to<br>
>walk as a giant on land, where the undines [submarine<br>
giantesses] cannot?<br>
<br>
>Gene Wolfe: There are a number of ways you could go.<br>
First, get rid of the notion that<br>
>the godling is going to be proportioned like a human<br>
being. Changes in size always mean<br>
>changes in build. (Dr. Crane touches on that.) A man<br>
fifty feet tall, proportioned like<br>
>you or me, would sink into the ground a lot -- had<br>
you thought of that? Take a look at<br>
>the really big dinosaurs. Bone density could be<br>
increased, and the legs and pelvis made<br>
>more massive, and so on<br>
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