<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>I agree with him too. But Urth is still not "hard SF."<br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Daniel Petersen <danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> The Urth Mailing List <urth@lists.urth.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:03 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: (urth) Hard SF<br> </font> </div> <br><div
id="yiv1786640469">I'd tend to agree with Lee here. -DOJP<br><br><div class="yiv1786640469gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Lee Berman <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com">severiansola@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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>David Stockhoff: We're not talking about hard SF here.<br>
<br>
Just for the sake of discussion, I'll disagree. Perhaps Wolfe isn't diamond-hard<br>
but I'd give him ruby- or sapphire- on the MOhs scale. I think he makes a<br>
sincere attempt in most of his work, as the quote below illustrates.<br>
<br>
Where fantasy writers are content to give us shape changers without explanation,<br>
Wolfe provides us with a sponge cellular analogy for Tzadkiel and flexible bones<br>
and muscles, make-up and hypnotic abilities for Inhumi.<br>
<br>
If the Inhumi really fly through space I'd want more than the skimpy evidence we<br>
are provided (and less evidence for their lying nature).<br>
<br>
>Nick Gevers: Speaking as an engineer, how might the godling be constructed so as to<br>
>walk as a giant on land, where the undines [submarine giantesses] cannot?<br>
<br>
>Gene Wolfe: There are a number of ways you could go. First, get rid of the notion that<br>
>the godling is going to be proportioned like a human being. Changes in size always mean<br>
>changes in build. (Dr. Crane touches on that.) A man fifty feet tall, proportioned like<br>
>you or me, would sink into the ground a lot -- had you thought of that? Take a look at<br>
>the really big dinosaurs. Bone density could be increased, and the legs and pelvis made<br>
>more massive, and so on<br>
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