<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I figure they are more like Earth and Mars. Actually, the size of Blue is implied somewhere (ten times the size of the whorl in diameter?) I don't remember exactly where. I always wanted to go back and see how big it was, but I am sloppy about numbers in that way. <BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 11/28/12, Sergei SOLOVIEV <I><soloviev@irit.fr></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev@irit.fr><BR>Subject: Re: (urth) Hard SF<BR>To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth@lists.urth.net><BR>Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 9:23 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>About Blue and Green, I often asked myself what kind of orbit they have. <BR>Is it just like Earth and Moon, but<BR>with much greater eccentricity? And what are the relative sizes? It <BR>seems that gravity on Green is less.<BR><BR>Another very exotic possibility is that they both orbit the Short Sun <BR>but come periodically very close.<BR>The conjunction has the period of several years! This seems not very <BR>compatible with the<BR>first variant, and may be an argument for the second.<BR>It is very exotic because such orbits would be normally not stable, but <BR>one can find some very<BR>exceptional particular "resonance" solutions when it remains stable for <BR>a relatively long time.<BR><BR>Does the Whorl orbit the Short Sun or the Blue-Green system?<BR><BR>Maybe this was already discussed?<BR><BR>Sergei<BR><BR>Daniel Petersen wrote:<BR>> That's a wonderful thought, Antonin! Is this feasible? (Both <BR>>
generally and in the text?)<BR>><BR>> -DOJP<BR>><BR>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Antonin Scriabin <BR>> <<A href="http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kierkegaurdian@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:kierkegaurdian@gmail.com">kierkegaurdian@gmail.com</A> <mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kierkegaurdian@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:kierkegaurdian@gmail.com">kierkegaurdian@gmail.com</A>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> Do we have any idea just how close Blue and Green get during<BR>> conjunction? I seem to remember that from Blue, Green is more of<BR>> a spec than a moon, but perhaps they are close enough, or have<BR>> unusually expansive atmospheres, such that during conjunction<BR>> their atmospheres merge and allow the Inhumi to fly from one to<BR>>
another. If they are this close though, they would most<BR>> definitely fall under the sway of one another's gravitational<BR>> field, which doesn't seem to be the case.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lee Berman<BR>> <<A href="http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=severiansola@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com">severiansola@hotmail.com</A> <mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=severiansola@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com">severiansola@hotmail.com</A>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>> >David Stockhoff: We're not talking about hard SF here.<BR>><BR>> Just for the sake of discussion, I'll disagree. Perhaps Wolfe<BR>>
isn't diamond-hard<BR>> but I'd give him ruby- or sapphire- on the MOhs scale. I think<BR>> he makes a<BR>> sincere attempt in most of his work, as the quote below<BR>> illustrates.<BR>><BR>> Where fantasy writers are content to give us shape changers<BR>> without explanation,<BR>> Wolfe provides us with a sponge cellular analogy for Tzadkiel<BR>> and flexible bones<BR>> and muscles, make-up and hypnotic abilities for Inhumi.<BR>><BR>> If the Inhumi really fly through space I'd want more than the<BR>>
skimpy evidence we<BR>> are provided (and less evidence for their lying nature).<BR>><BR>> >Nick Gevers: Speaking as an engineer, how might the godling<BR>> be constructed so as to<BR>> >walk as a giant on land, where the undines [submarine<BR>> giantesses] cannot?<BR>><BR>> >Gene Wolfe: There are a number of ways you could go. First,<BR>> get rid of the notion that<BR>> >the godling is going to be proportioned like a human being.<BR>> Changes in size always mean<BR>> >changes in build. (Dr. Crane
touches on that.) A man fifty<BR>> feet tall, proportioned like<BR>> >you or me, would sink into the ground a lot -- had you<BR>> thought of that? Take a look at<BR>> >the really big dinosaurs. Bone density could be increased,<BR>> and the legs and pelvis made<BR>> >more massive, and so on<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Urth Mailing List<BR>> To post, write <A href="http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth@urth.net" ymailto="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</A> <mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth@urth.net"
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