Now that you mention Quetzal. <div>This reminds me of Quetzacoatl, the Aztec flying serpent god. </div><div>who was some derivation of the central myth of the aztec which involved an eagle with a serpent in its talents and is on the Mexican flag. We've already been told my Wolfe to view the claw as something like the talons of the eagle of jove, so he clearly links talons and fangs in his mythologies. </div>
<div>Also, in the Bible, Seraphim are flying fiery serpents and angelic beings.</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Lee Berman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com" target="_blank">severiansola@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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>David Stockhoff: Typhon was certainly THE Serpent, but was he A serpent?<br>
>Is Severian something like the thorn of the field raised up to the<br>
>degree that Typhon/Satan is a raised-up serpent of the field? i.e., the<br>
>better counterpart to him? Are the two of them hammer and anvil in<br>
>shaping a more morally advanced humanity?<br>
>I'm just spitballing.<br>
<br>
Spitballing may be what we are limited to in a story which jumbles Theseus with the<br>
Monitor and Merrimac and Mowgli with Romulus and Remus and Squanto.<br>
<br>
As I see it, mythological Typhon was a potentially world-destroying mandragon, partially<br>
composed of snakes. His wife was Echidna, a cave-dwelling snake woman whose myth is in a<br>
direct line to the Roman Cumaean Sybil who is known as one of the earliest harbingers of<br>
Jesus Christ. This all gets jumbled into BotNS, tossing Alexander and others into the mix<br>
as well.<br>
<br>
FWIW, in Long Sun, Quetzal the inhumi, tells Remora (fishy stowaway, also an inhumi?) this story:<br>
<br>
>"A-man and Wo-man like rabbits in a garden. The--what do you call them?...The cobra persuaded Wo-man<br>
>to eat fruit from his tree, miraculous fruit whose taste conferred wisdom...It is all in the Writings.<br>
>Or nearly all. A god called Ah Lah barred Wo-man and her husband from the garden...We seem to have lost<br>
>sight of Ah Lah, by the way. I can't recall a single sacrifice to him. No one ever asks why the cobra<br>
>wanted Wo-man to eat his fruit...In order that she would climb this tree, Patera. The man likewise.<br>
>Their story's not over because they haven't climbed down."<br>
<br>
So, in this Eden story we have a plant (tree) and serpent as featured players. Somehow related to the<br>
Claw of the Conciliator? This story certainly presages Green, a planet of trees and parasitic reptilian<br>
beings. What might Wolfe's cryptic note to Marc, "GREEN is Urth" mean in an Edenic context?<br>
<br>
Dr. Talos' play also features the Eden story and the serpent appears to be represented by a fanged, busty,<br>
red-haired demoness named Jahi. Then in Short Sun we have an inhuma named Jahlee. Somehow it all has<br>
to be related but perhaps we were never meant to connect it all in a coherent, structured fashion.<br>
Perhaps, as David suggests, intuitive mythological spitballing is all Wolfe intended us to grasp from<br>
these connections.<br>
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