<div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial;font-size:small">On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Marc Aramini </span><span dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><<a href="mailto:marcaramini@yahoo.com" target="_blank">marcaramini@yahoo.com</a>></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial;font-size:small"> wrote:</span>
</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">For the most part, I think there are still mechanistic or symbolic explanations for stuff like this, and sometimes objective "proof"</div>
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...</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Wolfe has reasons for weird details ... and his whole spiel on the Pelerine's tent making a castle in the sky really drives that home: the symbolic meaning was clear, but the mechanistic one was STILL there somehow.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Yeah, admitting that the 'genre' or 'mode' is some kind of 'fantasy' in no way mitigates against any symbolism. I'm wondering what I said that made that worth pointing out? All I'm saying is that the 'mechanism', in the Solar Cycle, does *not* have to be in terms of 'scientific' naturalism. There are surely 'occult', or 'preternatural' forces at work in this series, in addition to and in conjunction with mega-futuristic super-science.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-DOJP</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Marc Aramini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marcaramini@yahoo.com" target="_blank">marcaramini@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">For the most part, I think there are still mechanistic or symbolic explanations for stuff like this, and sometimes objective "proof"</div>
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...</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Wolfe has reasons for weird details ... and his whole spiel on the Pelerine's tent making a castle in the sky really drives that home: the symbolic meaning was clear, but the mechanistic one was STILL there somehow.</div>
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--- On <b>Fri, 9/28/12, Daniel Petersen <i><<a href="mailto:danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
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Subject: Re: (urth) Inhumi eyes and names<br>To: "The Urth Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net" target="_blank">urth@lists.urth.net</a>><br>Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 11:01 AM<br><br>
<div>António Pedro Marques <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://us.mc1607.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=entonio@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">entonio@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Vision:</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">- I think this is one case where Wolfe just chose to go with a cool idea, not worrying very much whether it can be scientifically explained or not.</span>
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<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">We do all realise this is a lot of what's going on Wolfe, right? And if we need 'explanation' in the Solar Cycle, surely it's that the whole work is to some degree a form of 'magical realism' or the like, right? It really is 'science fantasy' to one degree or another, in one sense or another.</font></div>
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<div>For the most part, I think there are still mechanistic or symbolic explanations for stuff like this, and sometimes objective "proof"</div>
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<div>(For example, such as the external objective proofs to aid interpretation in the short story the changeling involving the actor Peter Palmer who played the oaf lil' abner - born in 1931 as our narrator Peter Palmer should have been instead of the 1934 birthdate his account posited, making him too young to enter the war legally - and the fact that the origin of the word oaf lies in a bad exchange - such that he was swapped back in 1931 and his subsequent encounter with his changeling warped his memories).</div>
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<div>Wolfe has reasons for weird details ... and his whole spiel on the Pelerine's tent making a castle in the sky really drives that home: the symbolic meaning was clear, but the mechanistic one was STILL there somehow.</div>
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