<i>I get that sense, but that Urth has staggered on in obstinate mediocrity long after the mega-culture has flamed out. </i><br><br>Ah, I hadn't thought of that - that's even more bleak! I guess the only question would be then how are the heirodules, etc. part of this 'flamed out' mega-culture? It would seem the whole thing is staggering on past its 'glory days' then.<div>
<br></div><div><i>Typhon sets up shop between the trunkless legs of Ozymandias. </i></div><div><br></div><div>Yes. Maybe it's part of the definition and make-up tyrant that you take no warning from the ruins of tyrants before you.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-DOJP<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Jeff Wilson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwilson@clueland.com" target="_blank">jwilson@clueland.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 5/17/2012 3:25 AM, Daniel Petersen wrote:<br>
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His people knew what they were doing.<br>
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Yeah, that's the assumption back of the entire Solar Cycle, which is<br>
highly effective in giving a powerful sense of decay, and, even more so<br>
to me, the possibility that Wolfe's narrators are only following the<br>
exploits and dramas of basically 'left behind' 'backwater' communities<br>
(however vast and seemingly complex and important to themselves, with an<br>
Autarch and what have you). It actually has a strong plausibility to it.<br>
<br>
It seems only too likely that a (inter)galactic space-faring<br>
multi-terrestrial empire (or mega-galactic interaction of cultures of<br>
some kind) of the magnitude suggested in the works would have 'pockets'<br>
of leftover cultural decay in the 'boondocks' of that massive<br>
crisscrossing of interstellar economy. And these pockets would have<br>
their overlords that would seem immensely powerful to the inhabitants,<br>
but are really lackeys and peons in the larger scheme, petty tyrannical<br>
landlords in the grip of an ultimately laughable megalomania - .e.g<br>
Typhon. (This would fit in very well with and hugely deepen Wolfe's<br>
whole focus on the 'outcasts' in the Solar Cycle.)<br>
<br>
Has anybody else felt like Urth and co. are just a forgotten 'tribal<br>
village' tucked away in a vastly advanced cosmic mega-culture?<br>
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I get that sense, but that Urth has staggered on in obstinate mediocrity long after the mega-culture has flamed out. Typhon sets up shop between the trunkless legs of Ozymandias.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Jeff Wilson - <a href="mailto:jwilson@clueland.com" target="_blank">jwilson@clueland.com</a><br>
Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana<br>
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