<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "entonio@gmail.com" <entonio@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> The Urth Mailing List <urth@lists.urth.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:47 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: (urth) This Week in Google Alerts: Home Fires<br> </font> </div> <br>No dia 11/04/2012, às 12:49, David Stockhoff <<a ymailto="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net" href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a>> escreveu:<br><br>> On 4/11/2012 7:28
AM, António Pedro Marques wrote:<br>>> <br>>> From another angle: severed limbs and stoning is what you have in Iran or<br>>> Saudi Arabia, two of the few countries which claim to base their laws on<br>>> sharia. Now, if iranians or saudi arabians living in Europe claim for the<br>>> introduction of sharia into the european legal systems, how come is an end<br>>> result of severed limbs and stonings a bogeyman? <br>> <br>> Because they'd probably have to stage a revolution to do so---a revolution which is not mentioned in HF.<br><br>It's them claiming there is a demographic revolution going on, not their opponents. <br><br>---False. Their opponents DO claim that. Google something like "Europe demographics Islam." <br><br>> Whereas the bogeyman of today (or rather from a few years ago) is depicted as a creeping horror.<br><br>But it's *you* calling it an horror, it's you condemning 'sharia'. The people
professing an islamic form of government cannot object to it. You're arguing as if severed limbs and stonings were not hallmarks of penal systems claiming to be based on sharia, but rather a libel. Wel, they are not. The Saudis and the Iranians aren't shy about defending those penalties. <br><br>---Like most Muslims, I approve of sharia without the medieval penalties. You're arguing as if all Muslims are fundamentalists like Iran and Saudi Arabia. <br><br>> Why would people who have fled repression of any kind be so keen on recreating it in their new country?<br><br>I could say 'ask them', but the fact is that they came to europe feeing from poverty, not from repression.<br><br>---For the most part, yes. So what? Are they then Islamic fundies fleeing anti-sharia repression so they can set up Islamic republics? You've answered the question.<br> </div> </div> </div></body></html>