<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danldo@gmail.com">danldo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">Thomas Bitterman wrote:<br>
<br>
> You typed "Christianity" when you probably meant "the Enlightenment".<br>
<br>
</div>Indeed, no. I regard the so-called Enlightenment as a fundamentally<br>
Christian phenomenon -- admittedly in part a reaction against problems<br>
in the implementation of Christianity, its values were nonetheless<br>
fundamentally Christian.<br><div class="im"></div></blockquote><div><br>I had never heard that idea before. I don't agree, but I see your point.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">
> Catholicism is not anti-slavery, and in some cases can be safely said to be<br>
> pro-slavery. See, for example, The Catholic Encyclopedia<br>
<br>
</div>The slavery to which Catholicism was not opposed was the Roman style<br>
of slavery, which was more like a form of indentured servitude. Roman<br>
slaves could own property and buy their own freedom, quite different<br>
from chattel slavery.<br></blockquote><div><br>The Catholic Encyclopedia (I included the URL) actual condemns the Roman practice, while detailing the "superior" Jewish version.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
But this is the main reason I responded...<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I just wanted all the wars to be over so that we could spend the money on<br>
> starships and Mars colonies.<br>
> - Grant Morrison<br>
<br>
</div>Supergods, right? A fine book...<br><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Yup. Had never read a really good defense of Superman before. Read it along with "Our Gods Wear Spandex". Both good books for anyone interested in how "low" culture handles spiritual issues.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
--<br>
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes</div></div></blockquote><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">-- <br>
</div></div></blockquote><div> </div></div><span><font color="#888888"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style="color:rgb(128,128,128);font-family:'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:16px;text-align:left">I just wanted all the wars to be over so that we could spend the money on starships and Mars colonies.<br>
- Grant Morrison</span></span></font></span><br>