<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Daniel, I meant women of power as "goddesses" or beings of worship (apheta, Kypris, Laura, Disiri, etc) not all female characters. However, perhaps Scylla and Sphigx count and are not sexualized. It seems to me that Marble, Nettle, Olivine are diffent than Kypris et al.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 3/6/12, Daniel Petersen <I><danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV id=yiv64462197><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium">in the Sun Cycle, where we may see female beings of power, but they are ultimately trumped and always seem to be stuck in a primarily sexual mindset (Kypris, etc)</SPAN><BR class=yiv64462197Apple-interchange-newline><BR><BR>Except, except, except.... Marble! Mint! Nettle! Olivine! (And the skull-faced gal whose name escapes me - and I'm sure there are others.) Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine - there are beautifully (and sometimes tragically so) women characters who are NOT simply sex-power beings in Long and Short Sun at least, and I always hate to see them get overlooked in light of the perhaps more obvious cases like the kind you cite. (New Sun does maybe look more unalleviated in portraying women this way.)
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<DIV class=yiv64462197gmail_quote>On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Marc Aramini <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http://us.mc1618.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=marcaramini@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:marcaramini@yahoo.com">marcaramini@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<TD vAlign=top><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 3/6/12, Daniel Petersen <I><<A href="http://us.mc1618.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com">danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Daniel Petersen <<A href="http://us.mc1618.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com">danielottojackpetersen@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: (urth) The Wizard<BR>To: "The Urth Mailing List" <<A href="http://us.mc1618.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth@lists.urth.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</A>><BR>Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 10:46 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV>Yeah, Lee, the whole point in Wolfe is for there to be few and oblique Christian references that are completely outnumbered and out-everything-elsed that still end up subverting the hordes of 'pagan' overlords. It's genius, even if one doesn't agree with him. And he's a generous storyteller, not a cranky crank trying to condemn everyone. He graciously invites readers to hear the Outsider and be part of Silk's revolution, exodus, and new frontier.
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<DIV>I would also want to state that I think the intention of Wolfe in There are Doors was very different than the Sun stories: the sex goddess/death of males after mating is simply not the dominant paradigm in the Sun Cycle, where we may see female beings of power, but they are ultimately trumped and always seem to be stuck in a primarily sexual mindset (Kypris, etc)</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Urth Mailing List<BR>To post, write <A href="http://us.mc1618.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=urth@urth.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</A><BR>Subscription/information: <A href="http://www.urth.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.urth.net</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR><BR>
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