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At the end of The Wizard, Able feeds his blood to Disiri until she
is raised to his level, from an Aelf (her true form being mud and
sticks and leaves) to human. This is a very eucharistic theme, I
think. A very overtly Christian theme and IIRC some on this list
considered it too overt for their tastes.<br>
J.<br>
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On 2/28/2012 4:11 AM, Daniel Petersen wrote:
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<div>Sorry, I should clarify that I didn't detect any overt
Judeo-Christian elements (especially compared to other major
Wolfe works) except Michael. But, yes, as has been mentioned,
the very concept of a Most High God is lifted straight from Old
Testament scripture (and other ancient Mesopotamian texts?).
And yes, Michael's position to the Oden figure is surely
significant (symbolised by size-proportion to tingling effect, I
thought). And yes, I was trying to say that I suspected Wolfe
wove his Catholic worldview deeply into the fabric of
Wizard-Knight through various means other than (what seems to me
the mostly absent) way of direct allusion. I can't remember the
ending of The Wizard, but the way The Knight ended seemed fairly
Christian 'eternal reward'/'heaven'-ish (and again probably
subsuming other myths of afterlife). </div>
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<div>I guess I'm fairly shocked not to detect a eucharistic
element, which usually seems central to Wolfe's epic works. But
maybe that's the point?</div>
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<div>-DOJP<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:21 AM, James
Wynn <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">IIRC when things go to
hell, the Most Low God turns and runs away. We see his back,
so we know he was lying about the worlds being circular. And
surely the Most Low God must always lie.<br>
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<blockquote>>"I didn't detect any Judeo-Christian element
except for the (pretty amazing) appearance of<br>
> Michael the Archangel."<br>
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The ending of The Wizard was as close to straight allegory
(Christian allegory) as Wolfe gets.<br>
As for why the connection between Alfather and Michael, well
I believe it has to do with the fact that in Germany the
chapels to St. Michael (that is, the angel) were built over
sites of worship to Woden. <br>
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%8Ddanaz#Medieval_reception"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%8Ddanaz#Medieval_reception</a><br>
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Michael consumed all the all nobel aspects of Woden (Odin,
All-father). Or perhaps as Wolfe sees it, Michael is a
*higher form* of Allfather. <br>
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J.<br>
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