Dang it. This thread totally got away from me. Since I started the current genre discussion with a comment to the effect that BotNS has a 'feel' of SnS (at first), let me just remind those who saw that comment that I rather clearly said that this is just a feel and NOT that the series IS SnS (in whole or in part). I still think I'm right that it has a significant SnS genre element in some of its contours - at least for a while.<div>
<br></div><div>Also, I want to chime in with the 'Amen' chorus on Craig Brewer's excellent comments. He really nailed it. I agree with a fair bit of what Stockhoff and Danehy-Oakes's are saying. However, I don't agree with Stockhoff's harsh belittling of Quinn (yet I do find the latter frustrating in what does indeed seem to be a rather obtuse attitude that could do with more nuance and the ability to try to see from within others' worldviews - not least, Wolfe's own). </div>
<div><br></div><div>I have to say I always feel C. S. Lewis gets nearly zero justice in these discussions. He's just not the overbearing, moralistic, proselytising, simplistically allegorical or didactic writer these (admitted) oversimplifications of his works imply. He's just not. But I'm not going to get into it. (And yes, I know I'm partly talking to one or two of his 'fans' - but I still don't think you're doing him justice.) Still, it's an interesting and surely at least partly fruitful perspective to see Wolfe somewhere between Lewis and Tolkien in certain respects. I also just think he's probably a *tertium quid* altogether in other respects (rather than a 'middle way'). (Very similar comparisons and classifications could be said of Lafferty and Powers also.)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Finally, as regards genre, though Wolfe seems to airily (and amusingly!) dismiss it in interviews, having recently studied it a bit more myself, I do think Magical Realism is a useful lense on aspects of his work also (a recognition and application of which might go some ways toward refuting reductionistic interpretations of Wolfe ala G.Q.).</div>
<div><br></div><div>-DOJP</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div>