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He wrote a couple of Dunsany pastiches---one about Man and the
Computer, more or less. I don;t know what Wolfe has said about him,
though.<br>
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On 12/15/2011 10:25 PM, Craig Brewer wrote:
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<div><span>Has Wolfe ever spoken at length about Lord Dunsany? I
can think of a few mentions, but nothing significant. That
might be an interesting way into the question of "fairy
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Lee Berman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com"><severiansola@hotmail.com></a><br>
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Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:21 PM<br>
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(urth) Gummed-Up Works or Got Lives?<br>
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>Dan'l Danehy-oakes: tBotNS is indeed a fairy story, a
once-upon-a-time whisking away of<br>
>the reader to a land where miracles happen,
giants..battle heroes, the dead walk, and <br>
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>monarchs live in invisible palaces. (Even the invisible
palace hides an invisible<br>
>palace!) <br>
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>If it questions the assumptions of the fairy story, and
especially the happy ending, well <br>
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>so too does it question the assumptions of classic
science fantasy: and we cannot <br>
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>understand that questioning unless we understand "what
we have learned of these things<br>
>from fairy-tales."<br>
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Wow, Dan'l. Outstanding post, both for content and
eloquence.<br>
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Also, I agree with all you say about Tolkien and Lewis and
Wolfe in your earlier post. I<br>
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might only debate one issue, that being the implication that
Tolkein's moral lessons are<br>
<br>
not explicit. I would agree with you in regard to religious
morality. <br>
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But there is a social-cultural morality Tolkien displays
which I find not so very hard to<br>
<br>
catch, including the intrinsic value of hearth and home and
the unquestioned assumption<br>
<br>
that blood (genetics) runs true and determines the worth of
a man. Not a shocking moral <br>
<br>
stance for an Englishman of the early 20th century but
still, it is there.<br>
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I think, by todays standards, Tolkien's geo-social biases
might not be considered so<br>
<br>
policially correct. I mostly mean his implication that those
dark-skinned types from the <br>
<br>
south and east are evil and not to be trusted. Conversely
that north and west are the "good" <br>
<br>
directions, not to mention those wonderful (american) eagles
who always fly in at the last <br>
<br>
crucial moment to save the day. If he'd used falcons it just
wouldn't have worked the same, <br>
<br>
I think. (not that I'm being really critical of Tolkien; I"m
sure he was a good and honorable<br>
<br>
man but also a product of his times. And aren't we all?)
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