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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=severiansola@hotmail.com
href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com">Lee Berman</A> </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>> > larry miller: Didnt all the sleepers have thier minds wiped
before boarding the<BR>>> Whorl? That would seem to solve the
problem of recognition of Silk.<BR><BR>> Yes. There is an additional bit of
evidence. In the back of a manteion, during a<BR>> search for a working
window, iirc, Silk discovers a painting of "Pas" depicting <BR>> him
presiding over an orgy scene of sexual debauchery. The nursing of
erection(s)<BR>> presents us with a clear clue that Pas is the Typhon that
Severian meets and that<BR>> the depiction of his tyrannical
perversions is accurate.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Their minds weren’t wiped – we know that quite clearly from Mamelta and
Rigoglio, who remember much of their time on Urth.</DIV>
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<DIV>As for the painting, it might well have been an realistic psychological
portrait, but presumably Piaton had but one penis. (Unless, of course,
Typhon had more than one head grafted – but Severian does not mention a second
penis.) Most likely, it is just blasphemous porn.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>> There is no glimmer of recognition in Silk. No jog of memory
of some hint in the <BR>> Chrasmologic Writings or anything. Silk just
considers it utter blasphemy, destroys<BR>> it on the spot and never mentions
it again (iirc). There is clearly something working<BR>> on the Whorl to
erase accurate memories of Typhon. (and that something may be a part<BR>> of
Silk).</DIV>
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<DIV>It’s 300 years ago. Silk was born ten or fifteen generations after
the Whorl was launched, and he has never heard of Typhon anyway, only Pas.
There’s no need to speculate on unnatural modes of memory erasure. </DIV>
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<DIV>- Gerry Quinn</DIV>
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