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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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course <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>Gerry's<span
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the text, not metaphor or <br>
>>conclusive leaps even though the sun is never
named in the poem. <br>
>>So a fundamental lack of self-awareness is also a
common thread here.
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Gerry Quinn wrote:<br>
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The rising Sun *is* in a real sense visible in the poem.
Unlike Orion.</div>
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Just to clarify our terms. "In a real sense" means "not". <br>
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metaphor? What I look for, though, are metaphors that are
actually present, like the noose of light, which is
self-evidently thrown by the Sun.<br>
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In classical cosmology, the Sun is the god that *rules* the day.
It's doesn't cause it. That is why we can have a separate god that
personifies "the Dawn" and why Khayyam can speak of Morning throwing
a stone. The Sun is as incidental (given the reference to Morning)
as any other celestial object.<br>
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*Morning* is named. Morning throws the stone at the stars.
Why <br>
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the hunter? Why is the hunter not Eos?<br>
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Eos is not such a terrible interpretation. Unlike Orion,
I think a reasonable case could be made. Nevertheless,
the Sun imagery seems much stronger. If Fitzgerald had
written, say, “bright fingers grasp the turret”, I’d go
with Eos. But he’s making up his own metaphor, and it’s a
better one IMO.<br>
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Are you saying that because the Iliad speaks of the Dawn's "rosy
fingers"? Now you are using knowledge of classical literature to
buttress your interpretation. But that is totally legitimate because
YOU are doing it.<br>
I don't recall anywhere that the sun is associate with nooses,
ropes, or lariats. (Sun as cowboy?)<br>
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