Thanks for the pictures, and thanks for the page that describes what a multi-faceted sundial might actually be used for. <div>I wouldn't quite say of these sundials that each face tells "a different time" as Severian does; I wonder if they're purposely configured that way (as Antonin suggests), or if perhaps they just don't work very well billions of years in the future.<div>
<br></div><div>(At any rate, on a symbolic or mood-setting level, this bizarre image of multiple, contradictory times is another touch-- like the archaic words-- that serves to make the connection between Severian's time and ours obscure and unfathomable.)</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Jason<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Antonin Scriabin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kierkegaurdian@gmail.com">kierkegaurdian@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">One of the pictures is from this website:<br><br><a href="http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/nof/sun/access/sd3_moreinfo.html" target="_blank">http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/nof/sun/access/sd3_moreinfo.html</a><br>
<br>This explains quite a lot about how such sundials work. Pretty fascinating! The only quirk is that this particular one was more of a design and engineering feat, since all the faces were to show the same time at a given moment, while the one described by Severian shows different times on different faces. I suppose it would not be too hard to configure the different sides so that they give times with a specific differentiation, so that you could know the time elsewhere on the planet.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Antonin Scriabin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kierkegaurdian@gmail.com" target="_blank">kierkegaurdian@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Here are some decent pictures of multifaceted sundials with multiple gnomons:<br><br><a href="http://www.davidbrownsundials.com/chch14_cutout_med.gif" target="_blank">http://www.davidbrownsundials.com/chch14_cutout_med.gif</a><br>
<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/G%C3%B6ttingen_Cubic_Sundial_cropped.JPG" target="_blank">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/G%C3%B6ttingen_Cubic_Sundial_cropped.JPG</a><br>
<a href="http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/nof/sun/access/images/sd3a.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/nof/sun/access/images/sd3a.jpg</a><div><div></div><div><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Son of Witz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org" target="_blank">Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">I was asking the same question recently.<br>
On the page Jeff linked to, there is one that looks almost like a cube with cut corners. I'd seen it, wondering how it could be a sundial. Well I think the photoI saw was without the restored gnomons. I thought it looked like a good contender for the Multi-faceted form, but I couldn't see how it was a sundial. This picture makes it clear. Thanks.<br>
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I love the idea that it's become it's own gnomon. Meta-Level-Alert!<br>
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On May 12, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Jeff Wilson <<a href="mailto:jwilson@io.com" target="_blank">jwilson@io.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 5/12/2011 2:27 AM, beet 31425 wrote:<br>
>> Hi folks-- first-time poster. Doing a pretty detailed re-read of New Sun.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm having trouble visualizing the sundial in the Atrium of Time. It's<br>
>> described as "one of those old, faceted dials whose multitudinous faces<br>
>> give each a different time." And later, there is a reference to "one of<br>
>> its gnomons", implying it has more than one. What kind of a sundial has<br>
>> multiple faces and gnomons? I'm having trouble visualizing it. Any thoughts?<br>
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> <a href="http://www.harrietjames.sundials.co.uk/restoration.htm" target="_blank">http://www.harrietjames.sundials.co.uk/restoration.htm</a><br>
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