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<pre wrap="">Lee-
You wondered if the daughter of Erebus and Nyx, Noctua in the Tale, might be Dorcas.
I suggested rather that if aliens and ancient gods are analogs then the most likely
female partner of Charon/Inire would be The Cumaean.
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First, we know the Student's Son in the Tale is an analog of Theseus, making Noctua an analog of Ariadne. What I recently learned is that in Greek legend, Theseus dumped Ariadne and abandoned her on an island.
She was miserable but her life soon took a turn for the better. She ended up with an even better husband- whom else but..Dionysus! Another bit possibly connecting Inire and The Cumeaean.
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Sweet! As you probably know, Noctua is a merging of Ariadne and
Aphrodite in the Theseus story. <br>
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<pre wrap="">James I know you have scoured the mythological tales in BotNS mostly for hints of Typhon.
But I think these female goddess connections might provide some evidence for the connection
also between The Cumaean and Father Inire. To the monster gods of the oceans as well.
To find connections between three different mythic stories within BotNS seems important in and of itself.
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I'm uncomfortable with your Chariots of the Gods theory at a
thematic level because Severian needs to be human for the
Concilliator/Mediator trope to work. <br>
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There _is_ some sort of connection from Inire to Typhon-- and not
just because he might have worked for him. The red hair is a flag of
a Typhonian, and the connections between red hair and simian traits
brings us again to Inire. Additionally, I'm beginning to suspect
that the F. Inire-to-Fenrir anagram is not just a lark:<br>
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Inire = Fenrir. <br>
Cumaean = Jörmungandr. <br>
Severian = Surt.<br>
Tzadkiel Ship = Naglfar.<br>
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If one decides that Wolfe is following closely the Ragnarock model,
that last connection would suggest that Inire might be Tzadkiel in
disguise since, according to the <a title="Gylfaginning">Gylfaginning,
</a>the ship that sets sail during Ragnarok is piloted by the giant
Hrym (whose name means "decrepit"). Also, there is some
confabulation between Hrym and Loki (who is mappable to Dionysus).<br>
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Naturally, this model will only make _you_ more convinced that
Severian must be non-human since Surt is a giant just as Hrym is a
giant. On the other hand, it would be nigh impossible to have a
story with mythological homages that does _not_ have all the main
characters map to gods.<br>
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u+16b9 <br>
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