<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:33 PM, David Stockhoff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><br>Anselm and Urban reputely pulled out their lawn chairs to watch the Cathars---fellow Christians who followed more conservative teachings---get massacred.<br>
<br></div>*********************<br><br>Anselm? No mean feat for a man who'd been dead 100 years before the Albigensian Crusade began.<br><br>If your reference point is Gnosticism, then the teachings of the Cathars were indeed more conservative. And the Carolingian emperors did not create a new rite, much less a new theology--they suppressed local rites in favor of the Roman Rite, and their theology is consistent with the development of Western Catholicism to that point.<br>
<br>Unquestionably churchmen of the time countenanced things that repulse us. But I'm very wary of truth-testing religious propositions by measuring them against the political positions currently in fashion; if anything, it seems to me that it ought to go the other way around. If there are timeless religious truths, then they should inform our political decisions.<br>
<br>-- <br>Matt +<br><br>The gods have their own rules.<br> Ovid [Publius Ovidius Naso], (43 B.C. - A.D. c.18), Metamorphoses, IX, 500<br>