<div class="gmail_quote">DAVID STOCKHOFF <span dir="ltr"></span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Would this explain the green eyes? That is, to the extent that these people also evolved from primates on Earth as we did, they are human, but they are physically marked as another race?</td>
</tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br>That makes sense to me. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><div>I personally accept the recent-lost-colony origin hypothesis, but I can see how the ancient-lost-colony hypothesis fits some of Wolfe's favorite themes, including the near-repetition of events over cosmic stretches of time. And the Shee (if I may call them that), if they survived on Earth (as they must have done to be real at all, because otherwise humans would not know them), were very interested in hiding themselves from men, using magic to do so. Their descendants might well have psychic star-shields.</div>
</td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br>If you want to call them the Sidhe, I have no problem with that. And I hadn't thought about the connection to the psychic shield -- that adds some weight.<br> <br></div>
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<div>Is there a way in which the recent-origin hypothesis can be reconciled with the ancient-origin hypothesis? Can both be
true? </div></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br>Sure: the Abos are the Sidhe, the Shadow-Children are the recent-origin ex-humans. Or vice versa.<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><div>The Shee were not exactly tool-users to begin with, even on Earth. Of course, if we are expected to know that, then the links to them may simply be by analogy. <br>
</div></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br>H'mmmm. And the non-use of tools fits in with the Sidhe's aversion to "cold iron."<br> <br clear="all"></div></div><br>-- <br>Dan'l Danehy-Oakes<br>