Further, as a random riff here, it could be that the Neighbors, who failed to raise the Inhumu up themselves, see something in SilkHorn which gives them hope that humanity WILL raise the inhumu up, given time. We see SilkHorn trying this with varying success throughout the books. Maybe they 'give' Blue to humans, because they realize that perhaps they can raise up the Inhumu in a way which the neighbors obviously failed at spectacularly.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Jordon Flato <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jordonflatourth@gmail.com">jordonflatourth@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I'm intrigued by this notion you're playing out Lee. I'm not completely on board, but I really like the idea of the loss of purity in the human strain, so to speak. Especially what you bring up about Dr. Talos' play.<div>
<br></div><div>In terms of the role of demons, and how they relate to the Hiero's and hierogrammates, for me the theme that resonates more with this (and I find this particularly true with the Inhumu/Human chain), is the idea of a lower life form being raised to a higher state by a higher form. So, as we become 'higher' in taking the blood of Christ, so the inhumu become higher by taking the blood of man. However, if Man isn't acting worthy of being 'god' to the inhumu, then the results are monstrous (see the city on Green, which I think shows what happens when the higher species which the Inhumu are imitating don't have their eyes trained vertically). There is an ancient esoteric precept which goes something like 'in order to climb the ladder, you have to put someone on the step you just occupied'. I think there is a lot of this in these books, particularly with the inhumu/man story, but also with the hierogrammates and man. So Man greats the heirogrammates (puts them on the step man just occupied), and then they climb up and out, not to be seen again. So, for the Hiero's to continue their 'progression' toward the increate, they must also raise something to the step they occupy. It is perfectly symmetrical and beautiful that they would do this to the very species (either the VERY SAME species or their correlary in different instantiation) that raised them up.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And, this theme is repeated and explored very closely with the Disiri and Able in Wizard Knight.</div><div><br></div><div>I haven't elucidated this as well as I'd like, but may try again later.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Lee Berman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com" target="_blank">severiansola@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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>Jordon Flato: Considering the Epic of Gilgamesh gives the story of Utnapishtim and a<br>
>global flood far older than the old testament, and yet very similar in<br>
>detail, I'd say it's something that goes beyond biblical veracity and just<br>
>into probable ancient history.<br>
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Heh. Yep and great example Jordon as Gilgamesh is almost certainly an example of<br>
what the Hebrews would call Nephilim. A giant demon-spawn serving as a hero to<br>
foreigners.<br>
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(anthropologically, it makes perfect sense for the Hebrews to demonize foreigners<br>
mating with their women. The jews have a long history of maintaining their cultural<br>
integrity by discouraging out-breeding)<br>
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