<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>True, it may mean between suns. But I'd wager Ultan is learned enough to choose his words carefully, and would likely know as much about this stuff as Malrubius's aquastor. <br><br></div><div><br>On Dec 17, 2010, at 1:44 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <<a href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">That line is ambiguous, but I conservatively read that as meaning "between suns." In other words, a "creation" is a world in that case, not a universe. <div><br></div><div>Perhaps a survey of Severian's use of that term is in order.<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 12/17/10, Son of Witz <i><<a href="mailto:Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org">Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Son of Witz <<a href="mailto:Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org">Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: (urth) The Outsider<br>To: "The Urth Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a>><br>Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 3:38 PM<br><br><div id="yiv530206632"><div><br>Yes, my point was that we have a book that crossed from one creation to the other, so we may have other things, which may be the Astronaut Painting, which is NOT a photo, so it's not impotant that no
one can pinpoint it. I think it's likely that it SHOULD be understood as an Earth Astronaut with a USA flag, beacuse Wolfe was the script supervisor on the (aborted) Innovation Comics adaptation. The image shown is as I describe. I think he would have vetoed that if it was wrong.</div><div><br></div><div>But it doesn't address incarnation, which is why I changed the subject. I was breaking a tangent off from the Christ discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, Master Ultan says that the library houses "<span class="yiv530206632Apple-style-span" style="">books cased in perfumed woods shipped across the inconceivable gulf between creations - books doubly precious because no one on Urth can read them."</span></div><div><span class="yiv530206632Apple-style-span" style=""><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv530206632Apple-style-span" style="">So I'm saying each creation, acording to the text, is not a closed system.</span></div><div><span class="yiv530206632Apple-style-span" style=""><br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Urth Mailing List</span><br><span>To post, write <a href="mailto:urth@urth.net"><a href="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</a></a></span><br><span>Subscription/information: <a href="http://www.urth.net"><a href="http://www.urth.net">http://www.urth.net</a></a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>