<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I know what you mean.<div><br></div><div>On one hand, the Alice quote is a legitimate literary allusion. On the other hand, Jonas quotes it.</div><div><br></div><div>It appears that Urth has tracked Earth unnervingly closely in some ways. But if you look at the Jungle Room, where apparently historical characters appear anachronistically, perhaps there are serious differences, proving that there can be serious differences.<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 12/17/10, James Wynn <i><crushtv@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: James Wynn <crushtv@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: (urth) Key to the Universe<br>To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth@lists.urth.net><br>Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 4:06 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail"><br>> Lee Berman-<br>> Some of
the stuff could be just Urthly versions of Earth stuff, like the moon astronaut. But some<br>> seem too perfectly Earthian to be seen that way. I think Jonas' literary allusions are the best example.<br>> His Alice/Looking Glass quote and him supplying the Earth/Theseus ending to Severian's story "proves" to<br>> me that he (robot form) has either been to Earth or, more likely, spent significant time with true Earth books. <br><br>I'm probably just old-fashioned --a meat and potatoes SF guy-- but I find it really unappealing that Neil Armstrong is not in Severian's chronological past. Part of the fun of that scene for me is the way the perception of symbols change due to Time.<br><br>I'm quite aware that this sort of "aesthetic blowback" always annoys me when I confront it with _my_ theories, but there it
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