<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br>Well, the point seems to be that things are endlessly cyclical.</div><div>It is a major point of the books cosmology though, and one of the other huge themes is a cyclicality of creation, the future of which affects the past as much as it's past affects it's future.</div><div><br>On Dec 15, 2010, at 1:46 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <<a href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I mean "similar," i.e., identical except for key differences. That is, in the usual sci-fi sense that most people understand.<div><br></div><div>--- On <b>Wed, 12/15/10, Son of Witz <i><<a href="mailto:Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org">Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Son of Witz <<a href="mailto:Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org">Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: (urth) (no subject)<br>To: "The Urth Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 4:33 PM<br><br><div id="yiv369535825"><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style="">Which universe are you calling "parallel"?</span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style="">What should we call our universe in this discussion?</span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style="">If you mean ours
and Briah are parallel, they are not. Our universe and Briah are cyclical iterations of the same creation that keeps playing out in more or less the same pattern. The text, and Wolfe interviews are clear about this.</span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style=""><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style=""> (There were several matrixes before Neo, there are Christs beyond Jesus.)</span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style=""><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style="">If you mean Yesod is parallel to Briah, then I would say that Yessod is clearly a metaphor for the realm of enlightened beings who have graduated Samsara and exist outside the Wheel of Time. These beings who come back and help those in samsara are bodhisattvas, and the heirodules play this role.</span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style=""><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style=""><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style=""><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv369535825Apple-style-span" style="">On Dec 15, 2010, at 1:19 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dstockhoff@verizon.net"><a href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a></a>> wrote:</span><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">What's the point in creating a parallel universe that is fundamentally identical to our own?<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 12/15/10, Son of Witz <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org"><a href="mailto:Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org">Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</a></a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px
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