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<DIV>>When I read it, I said "Oh, Pike, Blood, Rose of Sharon."</DIV>
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<DIV>Jerry Friedman-<BR>Would you mind making the connection for me among those three disparate nouns? (Not the</DIV>
<DIV>connection among the characters.) Or point me to someplace in the archives?</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>James Wynn-<BR>The spear that pierced Christ's side. What can I say? That's just the way I'm wired, I guess. I even thought the reference was obvious when I wrote it this morning. Clearly, I'm a little crazy, but sometimes it works. It gives me an appreciation for Wolfe's problem with getting his clues across.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<TD vAlign=top>DAVID STOCKHOFF-<BR>Pike as spear, not fish. Of course. I had to train myself to think "fish" just to learn the naming system.<BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>> Another example of how one can live in their own world and think it is universal. Probably, it came easy to me because it is also so unnatural for me > to associate "pike" with fish. Not a common American term.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Common in Ohio where I grew up, though anglers were more likely to shorten "northern pike" into "northern". And there's a memorable pike (fish) in /The Sword in the Stone/.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> My parents would have had no problem understanding that "The Rose of Sharon" = Christ. Nor would many other adults I knew as a child.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Neither would Joan Baez or anyone else with a background in early 60s folk music. "Rose of Sharon" is a well-known folk hymn (among those</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> who know such things). It comes from a reference in Song of Solomon 2:1 (KJV), "I am a rose of Sharon, a lily of the valleys." <BR>><BR>> When it first got to be associated with Jesus I don't know. But as attested in the number of songs you get if you google "rose of sharon lyrics", the</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> association is pretty broad. There's additionally an old gospel hymn that says "He's the lily of the valleys, the bright and morning star. He's fairest of</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> ten thousand to my soul".<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for filling in the last piece. For me "rose of Sharon" is only a minor association with "rose" (since roses of Sharon aren't roses, and by the way the plant I picture--and associate with my grandmother and thus not with Christianity--probably isn't the plant Gerry Quinn pictures), and even if I'd known about the hymn, I'd associate roses of Sharon more with Solomon or the Joads than Jesus. So yes, our own world.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">By the way, if I'd remembered the story of Jesus being pierced in the side well enough to remember the water, I might have wondered whether Blood had a brother named Water (a chem?) or Plasma (sorry), but I wouldn't have thought he /should/ have a twin.</DIV>
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