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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gerry Quinn-<BR> Not for
humans. My assumption here was that the Neighbours have different
customs related to
such agreements; perhaps they are more communally-minded than
humans.<BR><BR>James Wynn:</FONT></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman"> So...the deal-making was farce? The
Rajan (who really just Silk after all) will go on to the Whorl and Neighbors
will soon discover that their bargain is not worth the paper it wasn't written
on?</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Who knows? Gene Wolfe didn't write that
far. In human legal terms the bargain certainly seems meaningless.
It might be interpreted as something humans would find fair though - at least it
might be if one of the parties involved is human. If it turned out that
Horn was actually some kind of hybrid, I don't think the humans would give
his bargain any respect at all.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> Gerry Quinn-<BR><FONT size=2
face=Arial> If your theory is true, he seems to me more
like the Manchurian Candidate in this regard!</FONT><FONT size=2
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<DIV> James Wynn:<BR> I seem to be having a
problem clarifying homoneius. Still, I'll try to get the rest of my response out
tonight, and hopefully it will be clearer. Although, I'm sensing that you're
reading them only to come up with quick objections and reponses chosen for
their supposed wit rather than than insightful understanding. </DIV>
<DIV><BR>Not at all. My purpose is to challenge your theory with logical
analysis, not satire. And what exactly is your problem with the
reference? People are citing with a straight face everything from Erich
von Daniken to Gilligan's Island, and building huge castles of conjecture about
Greek gods not referenced in the text, and nobody bats an eye! </DIV>
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<DIV> Gerry Quinn-<BR><FONT size=2
face=Arial> He's some kind of mystical figure all right,
although I don't recall any incidents from the Gospels in which Jesus lured
troops onto minefields, or raised vampires as terror
weapons. (Seems more like a bit of old Pas coming out to
me.)</FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV> James Wynn:<BR> You read the part
where I said "Not equivalent to Christ as Aslan is" right? <BR>I don't see much
Pas-like in saving a town from tyranny. <BR>Still, not everything in the New
Testament is "gentle Jesus meek and mild".<BR><BR>No, but it certainly contains
no references to actions comparable to those described! As for Gaon, it
was NOT saved from tyranny. Its predeccessor city was a tyranny on
the Whorl. Gaon became some kind on anarchy on Blue, and Horn left it
in the process of converting back to a tyranny. (As for the oher town
involved on the war, no doubt they would have their own interpretation of the
rights and wrongs.)</DIV>
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<DIV>Also, doesn't Duke Rigoglio talk about how Typhon conquered Urth? He
says, if I recall correctly, that he took the part of the underdog in a number
of battles, and won them. That was the means by which his
unbelievably rapid rise to dominion over Urth was achieved.
That's *exactly* what Horn does back on Urth. So, I find it quite
plausible that there's a piece of Pas in there, coming in by way of Silk's
recovering spirit. </DIV>
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<DIV>Your answer to Horn praying to the Outsider is good enough, I agree that
that doesn't pose any problems to your theory.</DIV>
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<DIV>However, I thought of another big problem:</DIV>
<DIV>When people spirit travel, the entity appearing at the destination is the
spirit not the body. Inhumi appear as human, for example. But when
Horn travels, he does not have four arms and four legs, or at least if
he does everyone is too polite to mention it. Sure, you can talk about
homoousios, but surely his spirit should look *somewhat* different from that of
a normal human?</DIV>
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<DIV>- Gerry Quinn</DIV>
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