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<A title=Sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org
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<DIV>On Nov 5, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Lee Berman <<A
href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com">severiansola@hotmail.com</A>>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN>or that the Conciliator is a composite
figure made up of various people, of whom Jesus is, perhaps, the
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN>first, and Severian the
last.</SPAN><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN></SPAN>
<DIV><BR><SPAN>This doesn't work for me, especially since my understanding
of the sub-textual story of BotNS requires that</SPAN><BR><SPAN>this
world/universe never had a Jesus. But this touches on many previous debates
on whether Urth is Earth, </SPAN><BR><SPAN>which is past which is future
etc.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>I REALLY don't want to start the whole debate over about Sev-Christ,
really, I don't.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>But I just noticed thid great bit in CLAW, Dorcas says, " <SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span>To me you're Life, and you're a young man named
Severian, and if you wanted to put on different clothes and become a carpenter
or a fisherman, no one could stop you."</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=5 face=Baskerville><SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span>"Carpenter" "Fisherman"
hmmm......</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=5 face=Baskerville><SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span>Just pointing that bit out, not trying to prove anyone
wrong.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Also, in BotLS, Silk has a vision of Jesus on Palm
Sunday. Quetzal mentions the 'forgotten' god Ah-lah, and tells a version
of the Adam and Eve story. For me, these are pretty good evidence that the
prehistory of Urth, even if it was not exactly our Earth (as Wolfe has
suggested), was rather similar in certain respects. Having recently
read BotSS, I noticed Horn/Silk invents a version of the Eucharist to worship
the Outsider, whom he identifies as the god of the Neighbours.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Of course one can make various alternative
hypotheses. The hero on Palm Sunday might have been a previous iteration
of Jesus. The Outsider might have vouchsafed Silk a vision from a
different universe. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>My feeling is that while Wolfe is certainly a
complex and subtle author, his works are not best understood as puzzle boxes
with a hidden primary meaning. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Also, if I were made Pope for a day I would declare
that overthinking theological issues is a very great sin ;-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>- Gerry Quinn</FONT></DIV>
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