<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br></div><div>On Nov 5, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Lee Berman <<a href="mailto:severiansola@hotmail.com">severiansola@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or that the Conciliator is a composite figure made up of various people, of whom Jesus is, perhaps, the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>first, and Severian the last.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>This doesn't work for me, especially since my understanding of the sub-textual story of BotNS requires that</span><br><span>this world/universe never had a Jesus. But this touches on many previous debates on whether Urth is Earth, </span><br><span>which is past which is future etc.</span></blockquote><br><div></div><div><br></div><div>I REALLY don't want to start the whole debate over about Sev-Christ, really, I don't.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>But I just noticed thid great bit in CLAW, Dorcas says, " <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.289062); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.222656); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.222656); font-family: Baskerville; line-height: 19px; ">To me you're Life, and you're a young man named Severian, and if you wanted to put on different clothes and become a carpenter or a fisherman, no one could stop you."</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.289062); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.222656); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.222656); font-family: Baskerville; line-height: 19px; "> </span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 19px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.285156); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.21875); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.21875);">"Carpenter" "Fisherman" hmmm......</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 19px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.28125); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.214844); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.214844);"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 19px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.277344); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.210938); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.210938);">Just pointing that bit out, not trying to prove anyone wrong.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 19px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.273438); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.207031); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.207031);"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 19px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.269531); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.203125); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.203125);">~witz</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 19px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.273438); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.207031); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.207031);"><br></span></font></div></body></html>