<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Aug 12, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Nicholas Jost wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">One of my beefs with the list is not trimming sources. If you look in the archive there was the assumption in a post that as people moved "up" towards Yesod that choices would be limited. Nothing in the text or Catholic theology supports such silliness.</span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>Nicholas, would "heaven" count a place Catholics "ascend" to? If heaven is a metaphor here, after all Severian uses "divine year" as a universe rebirth, then how interesting that in BotNS, humans created the Gods in their own image, and those Gods (hierogrammates) ended up shaping a subsequent iteration of humans, in a reborn universe.</div><div><br></div><div>...ryan</div></body></html>