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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think it was the white fountain too.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Of course, there is another issue with the white
fountain, which Mr. Thallassocrat, at least, may find interesting.
The concept of a white hole comes from the maximally extended Schwarzschild
solution for a black hole. Few nowadays think that white holes exist in
nature - but if one does it should be associated with a black hole (though
perhaps in a different universe).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It would also make sense in that the result of
combining the two should be to negate both - this doesn't seem so
probable if an arbitrary black hole meets an arbitrary white
hole.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Could Severian, therefore, also have created the
black hole in the Sun?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>- Gerry Quinn</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=transentient@gmail.com
href="mailto:transentient@gmail.com">Cliff Judge</A> </DIV><BR>And then they
engage in what a couple of Wolfe's characters call the "warm congress" and
Severian says, I entered Yesod, or rather, it enclosed about me, yada yada,
and then he describes his orgasm as this terribly serious cosmic event, and
talks about something that is conceived from the union. Then he states that
what was conceived was himself.<BR><BR>Now as a reader who has just decided
that its pretty clear that Dorcas is his grandmother, Ouen is his father, and
btw I like the idea that his mother is Catherine, of whom a khaibits is slain
every year at the Feast of Holy Katherine, there is something in my brain that
really WANTS to take the easy way out here and say, right what was conceived
was "himself" meaning the actual white fountain that will replenish the sun of
Urth.<BR><BR>But part of me is also thinking....yeah there it is, Severian is
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