Is it in Reno? I'm unlikely to be in Reno.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:32 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org">brunians@brunians.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">'I am from this planet' is strictly accurate when you consider my physical<br>person.<br><br>Actually, we are not on a planet.<br>
<br>We are in a World.<br><br>Planets are bright lights that move in the sky.<br><br>Are you planning upon attending the 2011 WorldCon, John?<br><br>.<br>
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<div class="h5"><br><br>> I'm never sure what planet you're from.<br>><br>> For the record, Nietzsche shared your view that there was some biological<br>> benefit to preserving the seed. He too was a bit of a nutter.<br>
><br>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:20 PM, <<a href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org">brunians@brunians.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> It is biologically based.<br>>><br>>> If a man does not have orgasms, he becomes capable to perform certain<br>
>> spiritual acts which he cannot otherwise perform, or not as well.<br>>><br>>> .<br>>><br>>><br>>> > I disagree with that, actually.<br>>> ><br>>> > I recognize that, oh, historically, there were various secular causes<br>
>> for<br>>> > priestly celibacy. But there's a pretty well-established human<br>>> impulse<br>>> to<br>>> > recognize things associated with the transcendent or divine by<br>>> "setting<br>
>> > them<br>>> > apart," and requiring that the intermediaries between God and man give<br>>> up<br>>> > some form of "normal" human life is a perfectly natural way for that<br>
>> > impulse<br>>> > to be satisfied.<br>>> ><br>>> > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:11 PM, <<a href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org">brunians@brunians.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> ><br>
>> >> Priests are celibate for reasons which have nothing to do with<br>>> religion<br>>> >> per se.<br>>> >><br>>> >> .<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >> > How Catholic is the Chapter, really?<br>
>> >> ><br>>> >> > Naturally there are elements in the liturgy and priestly celibacy.<br>>> >> But<br>>> >> > the<br>>> >> > Catholic liturgy did not spring forth fully formed either, and<br>
>> >> priestly<br>>> >> > celibacy is not a uniquely Christian practice either (many Buddhist<br>>> >> > groups,<br>>> >> > um...Vestal Virgins...have to be others as well).<br>
>> >> > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:04 PM, James Wynn <<a href="mailto:crushtv@gmail.com">crushtv@gmail.com</a>><br>>> wrote:<br>>> >> ><br>>> >> >> On the other hand, it is possible for a "Catholic Church" to have<br>
>> >> been<br>>> >> >> established in the Commonwealth without a Jesus (complete with<br>>> >> crosses)<br>>> >> >> merely in correspondence to the vibrations of our Universe, just<br>
>> as<br>>> >> in<br>>> >> >> Green's dimension (There Are Doors) grooms wear black at weddings<br>>> >> only<br>>> >> >> because they do it in Lara's dimension.<br>
>> >> >><br>>> >> >> In that case, the Chapter is a parody of an echo. But somehow I<br>>> find<br>>> >> >> that<br>>> >> >> less satisfying.<br>
>> >> >><br>>> >> >> J.<br>>> >> >><br>>> >> >><br>>> >> >> True for just about any character in a Wolfe story.<br>>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>>> I'm not sure how trustworthy a source Lemur is...<br>>> >> >>>><br>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:36 AM, James Wynn<<a href="mailto:crushtv@gmail.com">crushtv@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>>> >> >>>><br>>> >> >>>>> Doesn't Wolfe undermine the idea that Urth's universe has no<br>>> Jesus<br>>> >> in<br>>> >> >>>>> "The<br>
>> >> >>>>> Book of the Long Sun"? Lemur told Silk that Scylla founded the<br>>> >> >>>>> Chapter<br>>> >> >>>>> as a<br>>> >> >>>>> "parody of the state religion of her own whorl". I suppose it<br>
>> is<br>>> >> >>>>> possible to<br>>> >> >>>>> claim that that "state religion" was not Catholicism, but I<br>>> don't<br>>> >> >>>>> know<br>
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