<div>How Catholic is the Chapter, really?</div>
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<div>Naturally there are elements in the liturgy and priestly celibacy. But the Catholic liturgy did not spring forth fully formed either, and priestly celibacy is not a uniquely Christian practice either (many Buddhist groups, um...Vestal Virgins...have to be others as well).<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:04 PM, James Wynn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crushtv@gmail.com">crushtv@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On the other hand, it is possible for a "Catholic Church" to have been established in the Commonwealth without a Jesus (complete with crosses) merely in correspondence to the vibrations of our Universe, just as in Green's dimension (There Are Doors) grooms wear black at weddings only because they do it in Lara's dimension.<br>
<br>In that case, the Chapter is a parody of an echo. But somehow I find that less satisfying.<br><font color="#888888"><br>J.</font>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">True for just about any character in a Wolfe story.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I'm not sure how trustworthy a source Lemur is...<br><br>On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:36 AM, James Wynn<<a href="mailto:crushtv@gmail.com" target="_blank">crushtv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Doesn't Wolfe undermine the idea that Urth's universe has no Jesus in "The<br>Book of the Long Sun"? Lemur told Silk that Scylla founded the Chapter as a<br>
"parody of the state religion of her own whorl". I suppose it is possible to<br>claim that that "state religion" was not Catholicism, but I don't know why<br>anyone would bother.<br>_______________________________________________<br>
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