<div>I can see evidence for Neighbor blood or something neighborly being given to Horn in the pit. As a matter of fact, I've taken it as a given. A neighbor visits him, and sends his spirt to Nettle (after touching him on the forehead). Something very real happened there, which does connect Horn to the Neighbors directly somehow. However, I don't think there is a transfer of souls.</div>
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<div>The dream projection to me is directly related, in part, to the ability of the Inhumu to project an image of themselves into the mind of humans, probably coupled with the ability of the neighbors to project themselves. It's a confusing element, to be sure.<br>
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<div class="im">On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:08 PM, James Wynn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crushtv@gmail.com" target="_blank">crushtv@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<br>1) Horn was resurrected from the dead after three days even though Seawrack and Babbie were not in any doubt that he was dead. I doubt I'll find more compelling evidence than that.<br></blockquote>
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<div>This is certainly compelling evidence that a Neighbor or more than one did something. I tend to agree that in some sense the being who comes out of the pit is not the same being who fell into it--as I've said before, this new entity has the life/blood/essence of a Neighbor and the will/memory/soul of Horn. Whether he's a different being, the same being resurrected with a new, alien element, or two beings in one is a tougher question.</div>
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<div>This could mean a hundred things. My inclination is to believe that the resurrected Horn is still in a very important sense Horn--otherwise the Neighbor's decision to treat with him is pretty dishonest and confusing. Of course, it would be almost as confusing if Horn were <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">merely </span>Horn. It seems to me that his authority to treat on behalf of humanity is derived unique status as part-Neighbor--he is ideally suited to serve as a "greatest bridge" between the peoples.</div>
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<div>You do this consistently, but isn't it "Rajan"? Regardless, the Rajan is lying when he says that and when he says he can't remember the guy's name--he's trying to avoid confessing that he's been to Green (I think because he's trying to draw out Fava).</div>
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<div>That appears to be Wolfe's name for the gestalt being who writes the books down. Calling him "SilkHorn" might be giving away the store, after all. Still, it supports the theory that he's a Neighbor in part as well. Frankly, if there's no Neighbor in him, his astral projection makes no sense to me. Then again, Mora's posession power and dream-walking don't make much sense to me either.</div>
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