I'm closer to accepting this then a full scale 'possession' of Horn by the Neighbor. I'll be looking closely through the book for more clues this time around.<br><br>In terms of ThomisticSoul vs. Eternal soul...well, that is a larger argument that I won't wade into until I'm done with this read through of SS.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Son of Witz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org">sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Stockhoff:<br>
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>> I don't know if a Neighbor "occupies" Horn, but it is clear that Horn dies.<br>
>> And there is a lot of psyche-sharing through blood in SS---it seems to be a<br>
>> motif, like eidolons in NS. It may well be that the Neighbor gave Horn life<br>
>> in the only way he knew how, by giving him Neighbor-life---but in Horn's<br>
>> memories in Horn's body, because memories are electrical/physical.<br>
>> Then the Neighbor went off to continue his own life in his own body, having<br>
>> merely imprinted Horn's body with not a copy of himself but with the most<br>
>> basic spark of consciousness. Just enough so Horn's body and brain could<br>
>> reboot (plus fix his neck!).<br>
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>> This requires a life-psyche distinction, but not necessarily a soul-psyche<br>
>> distinction. We know a body can live while its brain is dead, and that a<br>
>> brain can "live" without thought. It makes sense that if the Neighbor<br>
>> revived Horn, Horn would only have Horn's memories. However, on some level<br>
>> we can't fathom, he may "feel" Neighborish---enough to put 2+2 and realize<br>
>> what happened and what he is. So he wouldn't know anything about any ruins,<br>
>> but might be drawn to them.<br>
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</div>Watkins:<br>
<div class="im">>This makes the most sense to me of anything so far. NeighborHorn is<br>
>NeighborHorn, not Neighbor/Horn--he doesn't have the Neighbor's<br>
>memories/personality/soul, but does have his life/essence/nature. He has<br>
>Horn's memories/personality/ThomisticSoul, but not anything like Horn's<br>
>Platonic/eternal soul, if such things exist in Wolfe's world. He's Horn's<br>
>ghost in a Neighbor-enhanced version of Horn's body.<br>
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</div>Now I think I can get behind this.<br>
I think we may have come to terms with this thing here.<br>
what do you think Wynn? Lackey? Flato? Hamm?<br>
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