Ah. Well, my intent is not to sell anything. I saw something you said that made me think you might find it of interest. That's all.<br><br>You can forget I mentioned it for all that it matters to me.<br><br>Have a blessed day.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org">brunians@brunians.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">> Beelzebub's Tales is a true Golden Book, though not necessarily the best<br>
> place to start. I think "In Search of the Miraculous" is a good place to<br>
> start and ponder, and then dive into the hyper-density of Beelzebub's<br>
> Tales.<br>
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> If Book of the New Sun hides it's meanings for future readings,<br>
> Beelzebub's tales buries it's meanings for future generations. It is so<br>
> fraking dense, and astutely profound.<br>
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</div>May be.<br>
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You are not selling it well.<br>
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> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM, <<a href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org">brunians@brunians.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I don't know much about Gurdjieff's system. I am aware of it, I haven't<br>
>> done any work with it, I don't remember too many details.<br>
>><br>
>> I have been meaning to read "Beelzebub's Tales" for some time.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> .<br>
>><br>
>> > There is a very similar system laid out by G. I. Gurdjieff, an<br>
>> Armenian<br>
>> > mystic. He lays out a very cogent and beautiful cosmology which<br>
>> resonates<br>
>> > nearly exactly with what you are saying, while relating it to a much<br>
>> arger<br>
>> > cosmology as well, relating to the octave, and trinities. You might<br>
>> find<br>
>> > it<br>
>> > interesting. Ever come across his stuff?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:14 AM, <<a href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org">brunians@brunians.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> He is one of three or four people who I can have a conversation with<br>
>> on<br>
>> >> this level. The idea that he was humoring me never crossed my mind. I<br>
>> >> have<br>
>> >> watched him humor people (and you can too, if you show up at any talk<br>
>> he<br>
>> >> gives, there are always one or two in the audience who positively<br>
>> >> require<br>
>> >> it).<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> .<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> > Are you sure he wasn't humoring you?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > I kid. Sure, that's plausible. I tend to think it's unnecessarily<br>
>> >> complex<br>
>> >> > for NS/LS/SS, but then see Wolfe's diagram of the Wizard Knight<br>
>> >> > uni/multiverse.<br>
>> >> ><br>
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>> >> > Message: 10<br>
>> >> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:12:44 -0400 (EDT)<br>
>> >> > From: <a href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org">brunians@brunians.org</a><br>
>> >> > Subject: Re: (urth) Hut in the Jungle<br>
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>> >> ><br>
>> >> > There are multiple time dimensions.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > The level of the World that we inhabit includes three spacelike and<br>
>> >> one<br>
>> >> > timelike dimension. This is a selection (sort of) from the 'next<br>
>> level<br>
>> >> up'<br>
>> >> > which includes four spacelike dimensions, two timelike dimensions<br>
>> (one<br>
>> >> of<br>
>> >> > which is parallel to 'our' time and a third timelike dimension<br>
>> which<br>
>> >> > stands to the creatures of the 'next level up' as our time<br>
>> dimension<br>
>> >> does<br>
>> >> > to us.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > I derive this from my work with the well known 'Enochian' system of<br>
>> >> > magick, and as I recall Wolfe expressed general agreement with it<br>
>> when<br>
>> >> we<br>
>> >> > discussed it.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
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