<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV> A buddy of mine in Madrid has a good pun the Spanish use with/for ayuntamiento...</DIV>
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<DIV>I'll get the correct version and pass it on</DIV>
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<DIV>~S~<BR><BR></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Paul B <pb.stuff@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: (urth) Calde of the Long Sun and Learning to Read Wolfe<BR>To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth@lists.urth.net><BR>Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 9:24 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv1045803298>A "calde" is a mayor if etymology and the things we see Caldes do have anything to say about it. The word, like "ayuntamiento" and "juzgado" has Spanish roots in "alcalde" which means "mayor", which itself comes from the Arabic "al-quadi", "the judge". There is no theocratic component to it, which is fitting since neither Silk's predecessor nor successor (a teeny spoiler from RttW) are religious authorities.<BR>Keep in mind that Viron is one city among many, so terms like Pope and Emperor are right out.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Son of Witz <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>sonofwitz@butcherbaker.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Just finished Calde of the Long Sun.<BR>what a read!<BR>I haven't searched the list yet, in order to avoid spoilers,but I can't find anything to define "Calde".<BR>I'm not clear if Calde is a higher office than Prolocutor.<BR>Obviously it's the theocratic civil ruler, but I'm not clear on the hierarchy.<BR>Is Calde like a Bishop/Mayor or a Pope/Emperor? the book doesn't exactly make it clear. The fact that it's specific to Viron makes me think it's like a Bishop/Mayor role, and that the Prolocutor is the equivalent to a Pope for the whole whorl.<BR>any help?<BR><BR>thanks<BR><FONT color=#888888>~witz<BR></FONT>
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