<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>They're a whole lot better, I concur... </div><div><br></div><div>Lynch did do a good job with the mysticism and the visuals I think. I love the Guild navigators, love the handling of the Harkonnens for the most part, and the worms. </div><div><br></div><div>There were no sound weapons in the text, unless you mean Voice, which is also mishandled (IMHO) in both Lynch and the scifi series.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I worry most in adaptations of BOTNS about the handling of anything that appears magical or supernatural... That any film producer/director/writer would try to explain too much. </div><div><br></div><div>My two cents...</div><div>-k<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:42 PM, David Stockhoff <<a href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net">dstockhoff@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<pre wrap="">I'm just now watching the "other" Dune movies---the miniseries---and they are much closer to the text. Really very well done.
The Lynch movie did often seem to miss the point, but I thought it did capture the mysticism of the Kwisatz Haderach/Abomination's visions in a visually poetic manner. I think that's what interested Lynch, who otherwise was drawn to grotesquery and decay, not superhuman evolution.
Weren't the sound weapons in the text?
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>what a glorious mess that would have been.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span> The Lynch work was a mess, though not that glorious. I liked the
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>achieved atmosphere of baroque decadence, but felt that the core of
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>the original work was lost completely, not just that they simplified
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>into childish literalism the messiahnic role of the lead, but that the
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>missed that the core of the thematic threads was the mental and
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>physical improvement of man, by changing the Atreides avantage to a
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>scifi-ish kind of weaponry instead of a superior system of mental and
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>physicial conditioning.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->that's exactly how I feel about it.
especially changing the mental/physical conditioning to a sound weapon.
lamo.
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>y'all read The Incal? killer stuff.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span> Sadly, not in complete form.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->while it's not up to snuff with Wolfe, it's a damn good read. some of the alchemical imagery is made manifest in frightfully obvious (and cool) ways.
~witz
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