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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:18:11 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: (urth) Severian / Christ / Logos / Apocatastasis
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<pre wrap="">(The world is lucky Wolfe doesn't want to found a new religion, like a
certain other (bad) sci-fi author did. He'd be dangerous!)
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Ron Hubbard was an excellent writer. "Fear" is possibly the scariest book
I have read.
I find that hard to believe, but I'll take your word for it. ;)
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Subject: Re: (urth) Severian / Christ / Logos / Apocatastasis
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Well, there's no general resurrection and no judgment. It's not clear that
there's victory over a demonic power.
And instead of serving as a genuine Last Day, it's just a hit of the reset
button.
Other than that, I guess it's exactly like the Second Coming. Which is to
say it's not much like the Second Coming at all.
It's much more like the Flood.
On 11/24/08, David Stockhoff <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dstockhoff@verizon.net"><dstockhoff@verizon.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">That's it exactly---Severian is the Executioner, or Harvester, of Urth. He dies and is resurrected, but that's a smaller part of his story. Christ will wield a flaming sword, but he hasn't yet, so that's a smaller part of his (so far). We think of him as promising Life, but that is impossible without his own Death; Severian is our Death, but he brings Life.
They are complementary---almost mirror opposites. And yet ... what keeps this story from being a version of the Second Coming?
(The world is lucky Wolfe doesn't want to found a new religion, like a certain other (bad) sci-fi author did. He'd be dangerous!)
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The absence of resurrection and judgment are fairly critical, aren't
they? I suppose that would be evidence for the argument for Severian as
Christian, not Christ, figure ... in fact, as you note, he's got a
little Noah in him too.<br>
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