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<br><br>One just<br>> > have to look at accounts of the Punic Wars to see that even moving a few<br>> > boats between Sicily and North Africa was a gamble.<br><br>And the gamblers sometimes won. I can't help but wonder at the gutsiness of St. Brendan the Voyager who used much more fragile craft for his westerly trips. I do not support the contact theory, but I'm not averse to it either. There definitely is a countercurrent in state of the art.<br>> <br>> For the Romans it was, yes. Was it for the Carthaginians? For the Chinese?<br>> For the Japanese? For the Polynesians?<br>> <br>> > Almost 50% of the time<br>> > the fleet would either sank completely or just a few would survive.<br>> > Compare that with vast, constant expeditions before Christ to the americas<br>> > and I find it quite unprobable.<br>> <br>> Compare Olmec jade and Shang jade:<br>> <br>> http://www.chinese.tcu.edu/www_chinese3_tcu_edu.htm<br>> <br>> Compare ancient Japanese and South American pottery:<br>> <br>> http://books.google.com/books?id=Yrhp8H0_l6MC&pg=PA187&lpg=PA187&dq=jomon+and+valdivia&source=web&ots=NI1C2N-wiv&sig=8TrGmzEexjF7xjRWgrNF9b-xAYc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result<br>> <br>> There's really a lot more.<br>> <br>> <br>> > But I would have to delve deeply into the<br>> > evidence.<br>> <br>> Indeed.<br>> <br>> > The nicotine found in mumyes is certainly very compeling evidence of<br>> > contact. I don't know what the official position regarding that is right<br>> > now, if any.<br>> <br>> It doesn't matter. The official position is that human beings were hunters<br>> and gatherers until about ten thousand years ago. This is obviously wrong.<br>> <br>> <br>> > The roman sculptures in mexico I never heard of. Sounds<br>> > great. Any links?<br>> <br>> Can't find one offhand.<br>> <br>> <br>> .<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Urth Mailing List<br>> To post, write urth@urth.net<br>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net<br><br /><hr />See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/' target='_new'>See Now</a></body>
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