<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Dave Tallman <<a href="mailto:davetallman@msn.com">davetallman@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><br><pre>Baldanders only expected them to ring bells. </pre></div></blockquote><div><br>I'm sorry, this is dead wrong. The actual phrase was "[the bells] toll the deaths of continents". Baldanders knew perfectly well what would happen, and he explains that "waves of gravity" are the cause.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><pre><br></pre><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote><pre>Is there a problem with this, even if true? I know some religions that<br>
consider everyone to be a sinner.<br><br></pre></blockquote></div><pre>It allows us to consider the Hierogrammates as imperfect but doing the best they could, like the rest of us, instead of absolutely good or absolutely evil, as we have tended to go in this discussion.<br>
</pre></div></blockquote><div><br>I've actually been advocating for putting them on an equal moral footing with humans, not demonizing them outright. That comes later! Killing the vast majority of a planet's population of your moral equals reflects badly on you. As I've insisted, a responsible moral framework (deontology) doesn't much care what the outcome of your actions is.<br>
</div><div><br>Paul <br></div></div><br>
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