<div>Catholic Christianity neither currently nor historically requires pacifism. </div>
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<div>Wolfe is not a heretic. He plays with extra-orthodox but not unorthodox ideas, if that's clear--he believes or seems to believe many things that are permissible but not required for a Catholic, but I've yet to encounter an overt endorsement of some doctrine that Catholics are forbidden to hold in his works.</div>
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<div>As for Manicheanism, I don't detect much of that in his works at all. Manicheanism is dualistic, and the cosmology of The Wizard-Knight more or less explicitly rejects dualism, as do a number of bits and pieces throughout the Urth cycle.<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/16/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Adam Thornton</b> <<a href="mailto:adam@io.com">adam@io.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span class="q"><br>On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:17 PM, <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:brunians@brunians.org" target="_blank">brunians@brunians.org</a> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Seriously: we're supposed to be talking about the writings of someone<br>who is ... famously Catholic, with ... some really nonstandard theology,<br>
</blockquote><br>I know Wolfe considers himself to be orthodox. What bits of heresy do you<br>accuse him of? I don't see any that's explicitly in there....<br></blockquote><br></span>The outright rejection of pacifism (which I believe is pretty clear in the interviews) seems to directly repudiate much of the Sermon on the Mount, which I think I am being pretty orthodox in believing to be among the very centralmost of Christian positions (although, yes, of course you can point to the moneychangers, and, yes, then you can point to Christ carrying a scourge...but I think that most orthodox theologians would react pretty violently to the suggestion of Christ-as-Torturer, which is among the fundamental metaphors underlying the New Sun).<br>
<br>I keep getting whiffs of Manicheanism as well, although that is proving much harder to pin down.<br><span class="sg"><br>Adam</span><br>_______________________________________________<br>Urth Mailing List<br>To post, write <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</a><br>
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