<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Jeff Wilson <<a href="mailto:jwilson@io.com">jwilson@io.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Paul B wrote:<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
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On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Jeff Wilson <<a href="mailto:jwilson@io.com" target="_blank">jwilson@io.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jwilson@io.com" target="_blank">jwilson@io.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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I move that we adopt my term "Yesodis" to mean the current and<br>
former inhabitants of Yesod during the period of the Book and their<br>
non-human servants, including the Hierodules, Hierogrammates, and<br>
Hieros. It's certainly easier to spell and shorter.<br>
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This term isn't terribly good because it confounds the human Hieros with the alien Hierogrammates, as well as confounding the present with the past. <br>
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By confounding do you perhaps mean "compounding" or "conflating"? That's what "Yesodis" is intended to do, to refer to all of these higher beings as a group, and this is useful because they seem to share a cause in their existence. It can also mean the relevant subset of them in context, the way "Axis Forces" means the Germany, Japan, etc in WWII, but not necessarily all of them every time.<div class="Ih2E3d">
</div></blockquote><div><br>I still stand by "confounding", simply because the humans aren't the aliens, and then isn't now. What is the common purpose of "the Yesodis" - how are they alike, and who are they different from? Organizations of nomenclature like "Axis" have obvious commonalities and differences as regards others. If both humans and aliens are "Yesodis" then and now, who isn't one? If you like, you could call the humans (Hieros) Side A, and the aliens (Hierogrammates, Hierodules) Side B. That seems clearer.<br>
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He draws on its power numerous times, and I don't think "draw" is purely metaphorical. And if he's not there at the end to bring the New Sun for Ushas, why is he there at all?<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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</div></div></blockquote><div><br>To write the BotNS, of course :-) His role can be purely symbolic, and still terribly important to Side B (har) plans.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Jeff Wilson - <a href="mailto:jwilson@io.com" target="_blank">jwilson@io.com</a><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br>Paul<br><br>