If I could point out some really decent steampunk materials. <div><br></div><div>- I've always really enjoyed the short story "The Dog Said Bow-Wow" by Michael Swanwick. It's a fun far-future steampunk story. You can read it online at <a href="http://www.asimovs.com/Nebulas03/bowwow.shtml">http://www.asimovs.com/Nebulas03/bowwow.shtml</a>. </div>
<div>- Karl Schroeder has a Victorianesque society in his book<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"> Sun of Suns. </span>It's a very fun read. I have it as a legal, free download from the <a href="http://tor.com">tor.com</a> e-book giveaway. If anyone would like to read it, e-mail me and I'll forward the e-mail to you.</div>
<div>- A recent steampunk adventure novel is <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Whitechapel Gods </span>by S.M. Peters. It's a fun urban fantasy read.</div><div>- I'm currently reading <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">The Glass Books of the Dream Eaters </span>by Gordon Dahlquist. It's really long and dense, but he has such a fun writing voice its hard to put down. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, from the cinema side, I think <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">The City of Lost Children</span> is one of the better steampunk movies.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div>
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So, apologies for the very newbie-esque question. I just finished Book of the New Sun. Found it very challenging but very rewarding by the end. Is "Urth of the New Sun" now required reading for me?<br>
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Also - Is there a consensus on what Wolfe's best non-New Sun work is? > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:38:33 -0700> From: <a href="mailto:danldo@gmail.com">danldo@gmail.com</a>> To: <a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a>> Subject: Re: (urth) Steampunk books> > Yes, very much so.> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Chris Laybourn> <<a href="mailto:laybournchris@hotmail.com">laybournchris@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:> >> > So that disaster of a Will Smith film "Wild Wild West" had elements of> > steampunk? Thanks> >> > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:17:24 -0400> >> > > From: <a href="mailto:k.benton@gmail.com">k.benton@gmail.com</a>> > > To: <a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a>> >> > > Subject: Re: (urth) Steampunk books> > >> > > It's basically a sort of homage to Jules Verne, et al in my mind.> > >> > > Steampunk fiction tends to anachronisms featuring steam power,> > > clockwork, and other Victorian-era technology (and frequently societal> > > elements) providing the impetus for machines and devices that are> > > firmly in the realm of science fiction (giant walking weapons> > > platforms, for example, as in the anime Steamboy).> > >> > > That<br>
's my quick 2 cent synopsis, anyway ;)> > >> > > -k> > >> > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Chris Laybourn> > > <<a href="mailto:laybournchris@hotmail.com">laybournchris@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sorry, I'm a little new. Can someone fill me in on "steampunk?"> > > >> > > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:30:24 -0400> > > > > From: <a href="mailto:k.benton@gmail.com">k.benton@gmail.com</a>> > > > > To: <a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a>> > > > > CC: <a href="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</a>> > > > > Subject: Re: (urth) Steampunk books> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > I'll second the rec. for MAINSPRING. I'm not a steampunk aficionado> > > > > by any stretch, but I quite enjoyed Lake's style and unexpectedly> > > > > twisting story. Quite cool.> > > > >> > > > > -k> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Nicholas Gevers> > <<a href="mailto:vermoulian@yahoo.com">vermoulian@yahoo.com</a>>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > In addition to the VanderMeer Steampunk reprint> > > > > > anthology already mentioned in the current discussion,> > > > > > I myself have an original steampunk anthology coming> > > > > > out from S<br>
olaris in October: EXTRAORDINARY ENGINES.> > > > > > All new stories from Kage Baker, Keith Brooke, Jeffrey> > > > > > Ford, James Morrow, Ian R. MacLeod, Robert Reed, Jay> > > > > > Lake, Adam Roberts, Marly Youmans, Jeff VanderMeer,> > > > > > Margo Lanagan, and James Lovegrove.> > > > > >> > > > > > For Wolfe fans, I'd recommend Jay Lake's steampunk> > > > > > novel MAINSPRING--he's a big Wolfe admirer, and there> > > > > > are certainly Wolfean echoes in the book.> > > > > >> > > > > > Another steampunk epic worth reading is Brian> > > > > > Stableford's Werewolves of London trilogy--lots of> > > > > > metaphysics.> > > > > >> > > > > > --Nick Gevers.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > __________________________________________________________> > > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail.> > > > > > A Smarter Email <a href="http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html" target="_blank">http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html</a>> > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > > > Urth Mailing List> > > > > > To post, write urth@ur<br>
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I don't know if I'd say "required" but it is he only way to make sense<br>
of what went on in the first four books. Well, as much sense as<br>
anything ever makes.<br>
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Lane<br>
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On May 13, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Chris Laybourn wrote:<br>
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> So, apologies for the very newbie-esque question. I just finished<br>
> Book of the New Sun. Found it very challenging but very rewarding<br>
> by the end. Is "Urth of the New Sun" now required reading for me?<br>
><br>
> Also - Is there a consensus on what Wolfe's best non-New Sun work is?<br>
><br>
> > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:38:33 -0700<br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:danldo@gmail.com">danldo@gmail.com</a><br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: (urth) Steampunk books<br>
> ><br>
> > Yes, very much so.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Chris Laybourn<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:laybournchris@hotmail.com">laybournchris@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > So that disaster of a Will Smith film "Wild Wild West" had<br>
> elements of<br>
> > > steampunk? Thanks<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:17:24 -0400<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > From: <a href="mailto:k.benton@gmail.com">k.benton@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > > To: <a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Subject: Re: (urth) Steampunk books<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > It's basically a sort of homage to Jules Verne, et al in my<br>
> mind.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Steampunk fiction tends to anachronisms featuring steam power,<br>
> > > > clockwork, and other Victorian-era technology (and frequently<br>
> societal<br>
> > > > elements) providing the impetus for machines and devices that<br>
> are<br>
> > > > firmly in the realm of science fiction (giant walking weapons<br>
> > > > platforms, for example, as in the anime Steamboy).<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > That's my quick 2 cent synopsis, anyway ;)<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > -k<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Chris Laybourn<br>
> > > > <<a href="mailto:laybournchris@hotmail.com">laybournchris@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Sorry, I'm a little new. Can someone fill me in on<br>
> "steampunk?"<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:30:24 -0400<br>
> > > > > > From: <a href="mailto:k.benton@gmail.com">k.benton@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > > > > To: <a href="mailto:urth@lists.urth.net">urth@lists.urth.net</a><br>
> > > > > > CC: <a href="mailto:urth@urth.net">urth@urth.net</a><br>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: (urth) Steampunk books<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > I'll second the rec. for MAINSPRING. I'm not a steampunk<br>
> aficionado<br>
> > > > > > by any stretch, but I quite enjoyed Lake's style and<br>
> unexpectedly<br>
> > > > > > twisting story. Quite cool.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > -k<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Nicholas Gevers<br>
> > > <<a href="mailto:vermoulian@yahoo.com">vermoulian@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> > > > > wrote:<br>
> > > > > > > In addition to the VanderMeer Steampunk reprint<br>
> > > > > > > anthology already mentioned in the current discussion,<br>
> > > > > > > I myself have an original steampunk anthology coming<br>
> > > > > > > out from Solaris in October: EXTRAORDINARY ENGINES.<br>
> > > > > > > All new stories from Kage Baker, Keith Brooke, Jeffrey<br>
> > > > > > > Ford, James Morrow, Ian R. MacLeod, Robert Reed, Jay<br>
> > > > > > > Lake, Adam Roberts, Marly Youmans, Jeff VanderMeer,<br>
> > > > > > > Margo Lanagan, and James Lovegrove.<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > For Wolfe fans, I'd recommend Jay Lake's steampunk<br>
> > > > > > > novel MAINSPRING--he's a big Wolfe admirer, and there<br>
> > > > > > > are certainly Wolfean echoes in the book.<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > Another steampunk epic worth reading is Brian<br>
> > > > > > > Stableford's Werewolves of London trilogy--lots of<br>
> > > > > > > metaphysics.<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > --Nick Gevers.<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
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