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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Hello all</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">As a new member, I apologise if this subject is old hat-</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">did trawl through the archives but couldn</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">t find a reference. I was thinking about Severian resurrecting the uhlan</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">, Zama, and Miles. It seems to me that when Severian raises the dead</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">he is recreating the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">person</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> in his mind</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> somehow</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">- therefore when he resurrects Zama and the uhlan, because he</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">doesn’t</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> know anything about them,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">they do not appear to know much about themselves.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> </SPAN></P>

<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">When Sev raises Miles, he had Jonas in his mind at th</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">e time</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">…</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> which I think allowed Jonas</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> to hitch a ride, as it were.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Also, regarding Dr Talos</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">s play</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">“</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Eschatology and Genesis</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">”</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">–</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">the title</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> direct reference to the Bible, which starts with Genesis and ends in Revelations</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> (which is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">a form of</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> eschatology</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">T</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">o me it suggests that the Bible itself could be</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">started</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> with Revelations</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> (the eschatology)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> first, then on to Genesis and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> the start of the next cycle, which is an</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">interesting</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">take.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> Of course Wolfe is too clever to merely incorporate one</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">“</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">world</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">s beginning</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">”</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">tradition</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">hence the incorporation of the Sumerian and Persian elements. I wonder if this is Wolfe</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">s way of saying that all those legends, myths etc are different versions of the same event</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">…</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

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