(urth) [EXTERNAL] Wolfe & Women
charlesgillingham at gmail.com
Thu Jan 30 09:10:52 PST 2020
Controlling speech is just one step away from controlling thought, which is
controlling action. Freedom of speech isn't freedom to compliment or
placate or agree with the majority (or belligerent minority, in this case).
It's freedom to disagree with authority, to be rude and controversial. But
sure if you want to be polite when someone tells you to come with them, go
ahead be as nice as you want.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 8:08 AM Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick, you got it in one.
> I'm someone who occasionally says some of those rude things. I'm old
> enough to remember when it was "normal". But I come down fully on the side
> of "political correctness", or, as it is properly know, *politeness*.
> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
> *Maka ki ecela tehani yanke lo!*
> *--*Tȟašúŋke Witkó
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 4:27 AM Norwood, Frederick Hudson <
> NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu> wrote:
>> In my experience, people who complain about having to be “politically
>> correct” are people who want to say rude things and are really complaining
>> about not being allowed to be rude.
>> *From:* Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] *On Behalf Of *Gem
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 29, 2020 2:15 PM
>> *To:* urth at lists.urth.net
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] (urth) Wolfe & Women
>> On Wed Jan 29 2020 Ab de Dos wrote:
>> "I believe the politically correct accuse Wolfe likewise of being a
>> christian misogynist…"
>> I know Wolfe’s portrayal of women has been discussed many times on this
>> list. I found this tidbit from my recent re-reading of Free Live Free
>> Free says…”You like women, don’t you, Mr. Barnes?”
>> “Like them?” Taken off guard Barnes considered for a moment. “Not really.
>> I want them, and since I can’t have them, usually, I don’t like them. But I
>> want them, I suppose you could say that. I admire Madame Serpentina.”
>> I wouldn’t be surprised if this was Wolfe’s own attitude toward women
>> speaking through Barnes. He could find things to admire in some women, but
>> he didn’t really like them. Just my guess, for what it’s worth.
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