(urth) Interlibrary Loan

[John Barach]

Marc wrote: 
> Operation ares got clusterfucked by tens of thousands of words.
Maybe those are the words that make sense of the allusions to chess in the book, allusions that are never really developed in the book as we have it today.
John


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From: Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com>
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Operation ares got clusterfucked by tens of thousands of words. They sure butchered the last sentence of my story in the Wolfe tribute anthology lol. Damon knight changed the whole structure of trip trap and Wolfe agreed. Hartwell left well enough alone.

On Saturday, April 27, 2019, PAUL RYDEEN <rydeen at bellsouth.net> wrote:

I've never been sure how much leeway an editor really has. Would they really cut whole scenes they didn't like?  Do they redo things wholesale or just fix things and make recommendations?   Since Wolfe picked this editor, can we rely on his pick?  Even if Wolfe were alive, how much of the editor's influence would make it to publication?  And if the answer is the editor has a lot of sway, how many of his edits would the author notice on review?


On Apr 26, 2019, at 9:55 PM, Bailey Swartz <bsswartz at gmail.com> wrote:


I like to have faith that Wolfe (who so carefully constructed each work) anticipated the possibility of posthumourous publication and made appropriate plans for that eventuality.
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 7:51 PM Eric Bourland <eb at hwaet.com> wrote:

I am wondering what result we would get if, individually and noisily, we reached out to Tor editors and implored them to do basic proofreading on the new novel, but make no changes in its substance, and publish it as Mr. Wolfe wrote it. I am willing to act on this. Eric   *******Eric Bourlandeb at hwaet.comhttps://www.hwaet.com/  From: Urth <urth-bounces at lists.urth.net> On Behalf Of Marc Aramini
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Subject: Re: (urth) Interlibrary Loan One hopes. Yes that’s how I feel about those who would edit Wolfe.he can create meaning in so many ways that every reader will certainly miss, especially in his post 2000 work.  (I’m glad cell phones made top posting the de facto response - I remember the days of the list when it was a sin.) I have always preferred it. 

On Friday, April 26, 2019, Evan Pickett <picketter at gmail.com> wrote:
I'm reminded of a scene from The Insider, although Mr. Wolfe would probably not ever take this tone:https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ 724e8b4b-0515-48cf-b7f2- e49501158ca4 Surely any editor would know by now that Gene Wolfe chose his words with care? Best,Evan   On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:48 PM Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
 

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